Ibredd
 
Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 03:56 pm
Is not the closing of the court house on sunday practicing religion with the court house.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 03:57 pm
Is it closed on Saturday?
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Ibredd
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 04:00 pm
Yes I suppose some judges are Jews most lawers are.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 04:00 pm
Re: The Court house and religion
Ibredd wrote:
Is not the closing of the court house on sunday practicing religion with the court house.


No.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 04:01 pm
Ibredd wrote:
Yes I suppose some judges are Jews most lawers are.


Are you serious?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 04:01 pm
No, but it would be interesting if church's started putting out monuments to Lady Justice (is blind) on their foyers.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 04:07 pm
Ibredd wrote:
Yes I suppose some judges are Jews most lawers are.


I also want to know if you were serious. Shocked
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2003 04:34 pm
And most politicians are lawyers. I suppose in the big cities one might find that a good percentage of lawyers are Jewish but I doubt it is more than 40%.
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jespah
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 10:03 am
The courthouse is closed on the weekends but many are open for emergency hearings (for temporary restraining orders and the like) even though the courthouse is actually closed.

It has nothing to do with religion. It is because - and I know this will come as a great shock to some - lawyers and judges are people who might actually want to spend the weekend with their families.

As for your statement re the religions of any attorneys, Ibredd, care to comment?
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Portal Star
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 10:53 am
I don't care what religion the day is tied to, if it's a day off I'm all for it!!!

Sure, sundays off started as a religious thing, but many Americans are christians so it's handy to have the same day off for everyone. So long as the courts aren't specifying what people do with that day off.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 11:01 am
And Jewish isn't just a religion. There are also many famous artist who are Jewish like Rauschenburg (who does not practice the religion). Although the Jews have always seemed very influencial in the arts, they aren't in disportionate numbers world wide. Hitler certainly thought he had a run-in with them in Vienna as they rejected him as an artist. If you've ever seen the pedestrian art he produced, you won't ask why he was rejected. The recent film "Max" is about that very subject.

The courts are closed as part of the doctrine of the seperation of church and state. There are some Saturday traffic courts in my area until, I believe, about 2:00 to accomadate those who just can't get into court during a work week. Somehow I don't think there's a commandment for "Thou shalt not drive over the speed limit."
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Portal Star
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 11:05 am
woah, woah, back up there. Jewish is not a nationality. It is a religion which in the religion it is stated that that religion is passed down by the mother. It is not a nationality in the same way that christianity is not a nationality- there are/were different sects from different countries around the world, the major two group divisions being ashkenazic and .. I forget the name of the other one.
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jespah
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 12:00 pm
Portal Star - Sephardic. But those aren't sects; they're just areas where Jews are from. Ashkenazim are from Eastern Europe, mainly, and Sephardim are generally from Spanish-speaking or Arabic countries. This isn't all strictly true, lots of people are both (such as myself).

As for Jewish sects, they include Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionism and Hasidim.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 12:11 pm
Wasn't sure who you were addressing, Jesp, I'm aware of the traditional definition and Jewish heritage as a religion but also think it has become an ethnic group in modern times and not always perceived as just a religion. It's only a nationality as far as being Israeli. Many Jews who are friends and acquaintances are still Jewish but do not practice any form of the religion and, in fact, one of them celebrates Christmas! I'm aware that this is California and things always seem to be askew out here! Laughing Otherwise, we wouldn't have "The Terminator" on the ballot as well as some even crazier candidates.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 12:15 pm
Emphasizing the weekend as religiously influenced may be right, but that's not the major reason. If that were to be true, many retail stores, restaurants, hotels, and other businesses would also be closed on the weekends. On the other hand, entertainment places would be SOOL if they had to close on weekends when most people are off from work.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 12:56 pm
Wasn't the establishment of Saturday and Sunday off an accomplishment of the labout movement in the late 19th century? I'll email my friend Amanda, who is doing the Wobblies in Seattle and find out. Smile
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 01:07 pm
hobit, I think you're right; it's very vague in the grey matter of my mind, but that seems to be what I remember from college.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 03:31 pm
Retail stores, restaurants, hotels, are not government entities. If you read the history of the colonies, some of which had state established religions, up through the establishment of federal, state and local courts, you'll find it was an established protocol not to be open on Sundays. However, attorneys and judges around here anyway will work on a Sunday. It's like everything involved with all the amendmens but particularly this one. Sundays are the Christian days of worship and according to the Bible you aren't suppose to work at all!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 03:34 pm
LW, I certainly hope not! They'll surely screw it up if they did. Wink
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2003 03:35 pm
(Seems like the laws and rules contained in the Bible have been interpreted and sometimes ignored according to what suits each religious sect).
It really is a mess -- there's as much dissagreement between the Protestants and the Catholics as there are between Christians and Muslems.
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