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Tips on Buying Gas

 
 
Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 01:24 pm
TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my
line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we
deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and
premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of
16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the
more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying
in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a
gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the
temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other
petroleum products plays an important role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low speed,
thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping.
All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the
fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those
vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so
you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in
your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates
faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal
floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and
the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service
stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature
compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline
is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up
some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will
help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It
might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We
should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If
you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
(Oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair................0 barrels

B P/Phillips............0 barrels

Hess.......................0 barrels

ARC0....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco.com <http> , you will get a list of
the station locations near you.

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas
Buyers.



The above is a currently circulating mass email. Mostly, it makes sense. One point I think a bit weak, the temperature underground probably stays pretty constant overnight. May be not. Anywho - - -
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Ragman
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 02:22 pm
Urban myth
The attempt to boycott gasoline stations to try to lower gasoline prices is a complete waste of time. It has long been listed (4 yrs) as an Urban Myth for quite awhile. Please check the following link and read CLOSELY to see why:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 02:37 pm
edgar wrote :

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When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high.


as far as i know , self-serve stations in ontario have only one speed : SLOW !
they also have removed the "trigger lock" from the nozzles - you have to hold down the trigger to get any gas .
hbg
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 02:42 pm
I don't think ground temperature will change quickly enough to have any effect. There may be some difference between summer and winter, but changes between morning and evening are going to be insignificant, I'm sure.

Around here, we have any number of major oil gas stations. It all comes from the same refinery. Different companies really do have differences in additives, and they are important, but so far as country of orgin, you have two choices; take it or leave it.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 02:49 pm
Some states have tried a vapor collector, but i don't know if they work. It is claimed that pumps have filters thus the crap in the tank is not a problem, but I would not trust that. No temp sensor on pumps?? Are you sure?
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Consider purchasing fuel for your car. How does a US gallon of gasoline purchased on a hot summer day in Las Vegas, Arizona compare with a US gallon of gasoline purchased on a cold winter night in Anchorage, Alaska? It was determined that a gallon is a volumetric unit, so logic would indicate that the same volume of gasoline was purchased. Yet the temperature difference would cause their densities, and hence their masses, to be different. Using this logic, more mass would be obtained by purchasing gasoline in colder weather. Thinking locally, one might conclude that it is more economical to purchase gasoline during the wee hours of the morning when the temperature is coldest.

As you might suspect, such is not the case. Gasoline pumps compensate for density variation that occurs due to temperature, and in doing so, they measure the amount (mass) of gasoline dispensed. Yet, a gallon of cold gasoline will occupy less volume than when hot. In essence, the measurement of a gallon of gasoline actually refers to its volume at a given temperature (such as 60 degF). As such, this is really a mass measurement unit because it refers to the flow of a specific substance at a given temperature

http://www.omega.com/techref/flowmetertutorial.html
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 03:48 pm
I just posted it to see what others thought. I doubt it will change the things I already do.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 04:16 pm
Needing to choose between 50 variations of brand and size of ketchup at the supermarket, needing to worry about if we are getting ripped off at the gas pump, needing to worry about if our choice of gas stations impacts the environment or world peace.........is exhausting. Unregulated market capitalism is a f*cked-up way to run a society.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 04:24 pm
Sadly, the only people a gas station boycott effects are the little people who own it.
They have already purchased it. You don't buy it, they don't have an income.

I wish, as an individual person my personal choice of going to another gas station would make a difference in the big scheme of things but it does not.

The only thing I can do is either buy a car that gets better gas mileage, ride the bus, or shut up. Laughing
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 04:59 pm
she - why not buy a pair of those Heelys? lol
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 05:34 pm
now THATS a great idea..

I have been looking at those things Embarrassed
They dont make them for adults though sadly..
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Chai
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2008 08:09 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
The only thing I can do is either buy a car that gets better gas mileage, ride the bus, or shut up. Laughing


Guess which one I vote for?
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JoeKidd
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 04:20 pm
hamburger wrote:
edgar wrote :

Quote:
When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high.


as far as i know , self-serve stations in ontario have only one speed : SLOW !
they also have removed the "trigger lock" from the nozzles - you have to hold down the trigger to get any gas .
hbg


I always put my gas cap in there to keep the handle up.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 25 Mar, 2008 05:08 pm
joe kidd wrote :

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I always put my gas cap in there to keep the handle up.


i sure am glad it's attached by some kind of plastic "string" to my car .
i surely would have had to buy a few replacements by now :wink: -
memory fading , you know .
i read that on at least some new cars the flap and gas cap are "one piece" similar to those on race cars - that would suit me just fine - no more unscrewing while the snow and sleet are blowing - just one push of the button and "presto" .
hbg
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