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Sorry to hear about your grandchildren. I have two grandsons of my own so I can imagine the horrible feeling one has losing them.

BTW what do you think will happen in the afterlife to those the Biblical God likes to kill?

Is it comforting to believers to know that God destroys families because of his vile temper? I don't think much joy comes from the violent deaths that result from God's anger except from those who profit from it (God's Chosen Ones).

It seems God is so selfish that God is more concerned about his ego (you will worship me) than the happiness and wellbeing of those people Christians believe he loves.

But then that's what God's love is all about. Believe in me or suffer the consequences of my wrath.

Rule by fear.

And who gets resurrected? Babylonians? Hindus? Muslims?

Interesting story you bought up about Job. More evidence of vanity and pride on God's part (what you'd expect in a flawed human), not to mention how little value he puts on human life.

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I too have lost a grandchild. And, as horrible and heart wrenching that one feels at such a time it brings great comfort that he has the opportunity to be with me once more in the afterlife. Faith can ease the pain that one feels and hope for the future dries the tears.

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xingu wrote:

Sorry to hear about your grandchildren. I have two grandsons of my own so I can imagine the horrible feeling one has losing them.

BTW what do you think will happen in the afterlife to those the Biblical God likes to kill?

Is it comforting to believers to know that God destroys families because of his vile temper? I don't think much joy comes from the violent deaths that result from God's anger except from those who profit from it (God's Chosen Ones).

It seems God is so selfish that God is more concerned about his ego (you will worship me) than the happiness and wellbeing of those people Christians believe he loves.

But then that's what God's love is all about. Believe in me or suffer the consequences of my wrath.

Rule by fear.

And who gets resurrected? Babylonians? Hindus? Muslims?

Interesting story you bought up about Job. More evidence of vanity and pride on God's part (what you'd expect in a flawed human), not to mention how little value he puts on human life.

You talk about things that have no representation in the bible:

There is no such thing as "the after life".

There are none whom God "likes to kill".

God has anger; but his temper is not "vile", it is righteous.

You have missed the point completely on Job. The vanity and pride belongs to the one who caused Job's suffering. Jehovah restored Job greater than he had been.

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Neologist, what happens to the soul when one dies?

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Are you familiar with what the bible says a soul is formed of?

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vikorr wrote:

Are you familiar with what the bible says a soul is formed of?

If you are asking me.... yes I am.

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Intrepid wrote:

Neologist, what happens to the soul when one dies?

Man does not have a soul. Man is a soul:

Genesis 2:7: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Animals also are souls: (Gen. 1:20, 21, 24, 25: )

Souls die:

Ezekiel 18:4: "Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

The dead are not conscious:

Proverbs 9: 5,6: "[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
[6] Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun."

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xingu wrote:

Sorry to hear about your grandchildren. I have two grandsons of my own so I can imagine the horrible feeling one has losing them.

BTW what do you think will happen in the afterlife to those the Biblical God likes to kill?

Is it comforting to believers to know that God destroys families because of his vile temper? I don't think much joy comes from the violent deaths that result from God's anger except from those who profit from it (God's Chosen Ones).

It seems God is so selfish that God is more concerned about his ego (you will worship me) than the happiness and wellbeing of those people Christians believe he loves.

But then that's what God's love is all about. Believe in me or suffer the consequences of my wrath.

Rule by fear.

And who gets resurrected? Babylonians? Hindus? Muslims?

Interesting story you bought up about Job. More evidence of vanity and pride on God's part (what you'd expect in a flawed human), not to mention how little value he puts on human life.

I too, have lost a grandchild... to SIDS...now, I don't know if she's in heaven and I'm going to see her or if there is a heaven and if there is if I'm going to get in or any of that, but I do know that if someone takes comfort in an afterlife and a belief that they might one day see their grandchild in heaven then you should leave them the f*ck alone about it and not savage their belief when they share such an awful burden and heartbreak on a public forum with people who they consider cyber firends.

You suck for doing so, God or no God.

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I wouldn't be so harsh on xingu, BPB. I prefer the word obtuse.

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

xingu wrote:
Sorry to hear about your grandchildren. I have two grandsons of my own so I can imagine the horrible feeling one has losing them.

BTW what do you think will happen in the afterlife to those the Biblical God likes to kill?

Is it comforting to believers to know that God destroys families because of his vile temper? I don't think much joy comes from the violent deaths that result from God's anger except from those who profit from it (God's Chosen Ones).

It seems God is so selfish that God is more concerned about his ego (you will worship me) than the happiness and wellbeing of those people Christians believe he loves.

But then that's what God's love is all about. Believe in me or suffer the consequences of my wrath.

Rule by fear.

And who gets resurrected? Babylonians? Hindus? Muslims?

Interesting story you bought up about Job. More evidence of vanity and pride on God's part (what you'd expect in a flawed human), not to mention how little value he puts on human life.

I too, have lost a grandchild... to SIDS...now, I don't know if she's in heaven and I'm going to see her or if there is a heaven and if there is if I'm going to get in or any of that, but I do know that if someone takes comfort in an afterlife and a belief that they might one day see their grandchild in heaven then you should leave them the f*ck alone about it and not savage their belief when they share such an awful burden and heartbreak on a public forum with people who they consider cyber firends.

You suck for doing so, God or no God.

This is a discussion about the Bible and the different Gods and religions it gives birth to. Losing ones grandchildren, or suffering some other tragedy, does not give that person a free ticket to express their views and prevent others from disagreeing.

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Neologist wrote:

There is no such thing as "the after life".

You know very well what I'm talking about here. It is you who is being obtuse.

Neologist wrote:

There are none whom God "likes to kill".

Quote:

Psalm 137:8
O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy [shall he be], that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

137:9
Happy [shall he be], that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Neologist wrote:

God has anger; but his temper is not "vile", it is righteous.

More hypocrisy from from the Bible. God's anger is always just and man's anger is not? Another double standard and another example of how God can't live up to the rules he demands we follow.

Quote:

Hosea 9:14
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

9:15
All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

9:16
Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

9:17
My God will cast them away, because they did not hearken unto him: and they shall be wanderers among the nations.

I have a difficult time believing what Christians believe; that God of the Bible loves all of mankind. This is a tribal God who tolerates only those who worship him.

Here's a nice piece of hypocrisy found in the Bible.

Quote:

(Psalm 37:8)
Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret-it leads only to evil.

Quote:

Jeremiah 17:4
And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, [which] shall burn for ever.

Quote:

A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult (Proverbs 12:16).

Quote:

Hosea 13:16
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

You say man is soul. So you don't believe in body and soul; they being two distinct entities?

Quote:

Eccl 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Quote:

James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

What happens to the soul after death (afterlife)?

If you believe in God your soul is immortal in the sense that you will have eternal life.

Quote:

Romans 2:5
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
2:6
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

If you don't believe in God he will destroy your soul.

Quote:

Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Whether you have eternal life or not depends on your religious beliefs.

This is called Rule by Fear.

"Fear him" for he can kill you.

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xingu wrote:

Neologist wrote:
There is no such thing as "the after life".
You know very well what I'm talking about here. It is you who is being obtuse. . .

I know what you are talking about.

It is you who do not know what I am talking about.

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I do, and it is just as boring now as it has been for the last four or five years.

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Why, good morning, Set.

Er, good afternoon .. .

Well, I'll have to admit my message is far from complex.

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You say man is soul. So you don't believe in body and soul; they being two distinct entities?

You fill find that soul is used to refer to the total of body and spirit (breath of life), and it is the spirit that returns to god, not the soul.

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Semantics. No?

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Except the spirit is not conscious.

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Do you believe the mind and the brain exist as two separate realities?

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Are you asking me to assign a scriptural meaning to the terms brain and mind?

I'm not sure I can. In the case of humans, I don't believe one can exist without the other.

But if you are talking about the English word soul, the Greek word psyche, or the Hebrew word nephesh, it would include brain, mind, body, and personality as a whole.

Your soul is you.

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Hi guys what's happening?

Btw if you're talking about souls etc, I had an interesting thought the other day. We only experience one moment at a time, and any previously experience moment wasn't actually experienced by the same "man behind the screen", "soul" as some would call it, or the thing that is experiencing the event. Supposing this is true, "you" are dying and being reborn, infinitely, constantly. I had this thought when I was presented with the fact that your body (and brain) contains none of the atoms, molecules or cells etc that it did 14 years ago. Each cell is continually being replaced. The longest living cells are the brain cells which live for 14 years. If you say - well this can't be true because I know I've experienced other points in time. But those are only memories - how do you know that "you" experienced them? It's the same as the "brain in a vat" thought experiment. How do you know that you only became conscious a moment ago, and that all your memories are implanted? It's quite scary to think about - you're always dying. It's also something that would be applied to dying - you shouldn't fear dying - you're dying all the time.

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