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Problems with older Fleck Softener

 
 
Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:48 am
I have seen lots of references to Fleck softeners on this forum, so I'm hoping someone can help with my problem. I have a Fleck 3600 (about 17 years old) and have had recent problems with a sticky piston. It caused a problem with the large plastic gear. I've taken the unit apart, cleaned it up and reassembled it and it seems to work fine until the large plastic gear (brine valve cam?) comes around, then it get hung up on the brine valve stem. It appears that the brine valve had gotten stuck, then the top of it made an indentation in the plastic cam. Now it comes to that spot and hangs up, causing the large metal drive gear to slip on the plastic, cutting a slot in the teeth. This gets all the timing out of whack.

As a stop gap measure, I have shimmed the plastic cam out on the shaft a small amount so the deformations do not come into play. It seems to be working fine.

This has been a wonderful unit, absolutley no problems as long as we've owned the house. I am wondering if I should try to get several parts and completely rebuild it (cam, pistons, seals, etc) or replace the entire unit due to it's age. I'm having touble finding parts on line for this older model. If replacement is the way to go, which new Fleck model would replicate this unit?

Dave
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 08:06 am
Re: Problems with older Fleck Softener
highpowerindiana wrote:
I have seen lots of references to Fleck softeners on this forum, so I'm hoping someone can help with my problem. I have a Fleck 3600 (about 17 years old) and have had recent problems with a sticky piston.

This has been a wonderful unit, absolutley no problems as long as we've owned the house. If replacement is the way to go, which new Fleck model would replicate this unit?

Dave


Dave, that old work horse has served you well. I would replace it with a Fleck 2510 SE.
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Gary Slusser
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 03:01 pm
Re: Problems with older Fleck Softener
highpowerindiana wrote:
I have seen lots of references to Fleck softeners on this forum, so I'm hoping someone can help with my problem. I have a Fleck 3600 (about 17 years old) and have had recent problems with a sticky piston. It caused a problem with the large plastic gear. I've taken the unit apart, cleaned it up and reassembled it and it seems to work fine until the large plastic gear (brine valve cam?) comes around, then it get hung up on the brine valve stem. It appears that the brine valve had gotten stuck, then the top of it made an indentation in the plastic cam. Now it comes to that spot and hangs up, causing the large metal drive gear to slip on the plastic, cutting a slot in the teeth. This gets all the timing out of whack.

I am wondering if I should try to get several parts and completely rebuild it (cam, pistons, seals, etc) or replace the entire unit due to it's age. I'm having touble finding parts on line for this older model. If replacement is the way to go, which new Fleck model would replicate this unit?

Dave

Hi Dave. I believe the 3600 is still made and parts shouldn't be a problem for a dealer that wants to sell them. If I could find the parts, if they are made I can find them for you, they'll cost from $100 up to $150 delivered but... it probably is a day timer instead of a metered/demand regenerated model. And if you have to go a new power head, they are pricey! so the best way to go since you are a DIY kinda guy, is with a new softener using the latest new and improved version of the Fleck piston seal and spacer design (that Fleck still hasn't made).

It has no brine valve to stick like the Fleck valves, all the seals and spacers come out as one piece. It uses softened water for brine make up. It has variable reserve. It can be totally rebuilt, replace all five parts, seals/spacers (stack as one part), main and brine pistons as one part, the motor and circuit board, all in less than 30 minutes 'til you have the water back on and the tools put away and floor swept. And since you're handy instead of handsome as Red Green says, you could do it in 15 minutes because you only need a pair of channel lock pliers and an old towel or bunch of rags to sop up maybe two cups of water.

It's the Clack WS-1. Designed and built by three ex Fleck engineers with 72 yrs at Fleck. I've sold 917 of them to DIYers and had only 21 problems. Check it out. Same warranty as Fleck and no micro switches, wires, wire plugs, Teflon coatings, extra motors, or separate brine valve or special tools needed (IIRC the 5600 tools fit the 3600). And many more good features than the Fleck 3600, 5600 or 2510 and... its parts cost half that of Fleck! All your seals and spacers? they, the same number, come out of the Clack as one piece with nothing more than the tip of a forefinger. A push with your thumb installs them.
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justalurker
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 04:35 pm
Dave,

You can download the service manual for your 3600 here click here for Fleck 3600 Service Manual which includes a complete parts list and exploded diagrams.

Any water treatment professional can order the parts you need. Parts are also available online at reputable web sites.

Repairing the 3600 and replacing the resin could be cost effective if you shop around and do the work yourself. After 17 years of reliable service that softener has earned it's keep and a replacement might be prudent.

Based on the long term reliable service your Fleck 3600 has provided you're right to be looking to Fleck for a replacement control valve or softener. You KNOW what to expect as far as service and reliability from them... why accept less?
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