Thanks ozzie. I suppose it is partly just one of those odd bits of historical chance that the european traditions of guitar didn't really take to bending notes in the manner of american blues playing.
I think I'd like to hear Maggie's Farm arranged for 101 lutes.
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Sun 16 Dec, 2007 08:17 am
Gabor Szabo, afetr he played with Chico HAmilton, developed his distinctive style (IMHO) after being xposed to the "Octaves" style playing of BB King. One of his best arrangements is an octaves version of "who can I turn to"
He ws my fav guitarist when I was growing up and before the BEatles really got into their more virtuistic playing and arrangements.
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Sun 16 Dec, 2007 08:20 am
I can understand why a Europen gets so wound up with Dylan. They confuse musch of a singers "shorthand" with profundity. I always found Zimmie quite the master of the bleedin obvious.
We had so many artists whove said it better , and certainly with much better voices.
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Sun 16 Dec, 2007 08:42 am
I confess I'm almost as big a fan of zimmie as spendi is. But he ain't the only thing up there in the firmament.
I saw Szabo at a Hollywood club; Almeida once or maybe twice at the Lighthouse in Hermosa Beach; Bream at UCLA Royce Hall in the early sixties; Szabo and Almeida probably late sixties. Once had five Szabo albums, but am down to one, Spellbinder. Still have the MJQ Collaboration album, I think.
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Sun 16 Dec, 2007 09:22 am
not a lot of us Gabor Szabo groupies. My first guitar was a Gibson C-1 just like his (cept mine was left handed). I sold it 10 years later . A smooth sound and not a long duration sound like a MArtin.
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Sun 16 Dec, 2007 09:25 am
Dylans voice has been described as a weed whacker tuning up.
"Ghosts of 'lectricity howl in the bones of her face"
"Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft."
"Deep in my heart Babe I know there's no help I can bring."
"The eyes of the idol in the iron head are glowing."
And who is Mr Jones?
When asked, I think in '81 at a press conference, who interprets his lyrics best he said-- "Nobody comes close".
You're just making self-reassuring assertions again. It's the surest route to dumb I know.
He's in a class of his own. And he's a Russian really.
Anybody making facile and meaningless jibes at his voice doesn't know singing nor English either.
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Sun 16 Dec, 2007 12:45 pm
Cripes Bernie-
Some of those ladies looked like they were hoping the ground would open up and swallow them, as well they might. One is seen yawning.
We have Chubby Brown here.
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Mon 17 Dec, 2007 04:31 pm
If you wish to see ethereal messages in his music, knock yourself out spendi. I agree with a small contingent that had called Dylans music "the great mind F**k"
. Hence youre easily impressed , I am not.
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Mon 17 Dec, 2007 06:10 pm
Ray Charles farts make better music than Dylan's bestSong For You
Ray was an arranger, a musician, singer, and he brought it all together , even when he was stoned.
When Dylan was stoned , he often fell off the stage
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Wed 19 Dec, 2007 08:20 am
What utter rubbish. What worthless foam from the mouth.
Ray Charles is another performer I saw around '63, at the old Shrine Auditorium.... still a young'un.
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Wed 19 Dec, 2007 10:16 am
Letty-- Here's the full song. The one that Philip Larkin said was the best song ever written. You should see some of the early '80s versions. It's about the risks in being a real poet. And the rewards. Not many people know it has four verses.
Somebody puts Subterranean Homesick Blues on our pub juke box at least twice a week. All the younger end love it even though the snobs say nasty things they make up on the spur of the moment.
Spendius, his eyes appear so sad in that picture. It's almost as though he doesn't like what he is doing. Thank you for the link, Brit. He must be playing the harmonica as well.
You may think me strange, but I like his looks and his voice (although somewhat the worse for wear) better now that he is older.
The first song that I ever heard Dylan sing was "Lay Lady Lady".
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farmerman
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Wed 19 Dec, 2007 12:50 pm
If it werent for the Byrds, tambourine man might never have introduced Dylan. His voice is almost like a Muppet on that version, and his guitar, damn.
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Wed 19 Dec, 2007 01:06 pm
farmer, didn't you say that you were of Polish ancestry? Listen to this young man play Chopin.