Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

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Loved it, Deb! Very Happy

dlowan wrote:

...And the people rested. For it was a time of feasting and gift-giving and crippling debt. They would eat and drink. For they would need to be ready for work when they got back.

For the place was a shambles.

From The Book of Kevin 12; 15-73; The Gospel According to the Crikey Psephological Observation Unit.

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Crikey! Kevin's everywhere! At once! Surprised

Stop him, someone! The man's possessed! :

Rudd visits Iraqi PM

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December 22, 2007 - 9:04AM

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, on a surprise visit to Baghdad today, assured Iraq of a long-term partnership but stressed his combat troops deployed here would head home by June next year. ... <cont>

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/rudd-visits-iraqi-pm/2007/12/21/1198175344087.html

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Well, well, Mr Andrews!:

Haneef given green light, 'would like to return'

The prisoner: Mohamed Haneef, who at the time faced a charge of supporting terrorism, being driven out of the Brisbane watchhouse on July 23.
Photo: Eddie Safarik

December 22, 2007/the AGE

FORMER terrorism suspect Mohamed Haneef is free to return to Australia after the Federal Court yesterday dismissed former immigration minister Kevin Andrews' appeal against the decision to reinstate the Indian doctor's visa.

But the new Immigration Minister, Chris Evans, has reserved the right to change the Migration Act and potentially mount his own appeal to the High Court.

A full bench of the Federal Court, sitting in Melbourne, yesterday unanimously upheld Justice Jeffrey Spender's ruling in August that Mr Andrews had misinterpreted the Migration Act's character test when he cancelled Dr Haneef's visa in July.

The judgement, which effectively reinstates Dr Haneef's visa, could have implications for other migrants who have had their visas revoked on similar grounds. ...<ont>

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msolga wrote:

Crikey! Kevin's everywhere! At once!
Stop him, someone! The man's possessed! :

Rudd visits Iraqi PM

December 22, 2007 - 9:04AM

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, on a surprise visit to Baghdad today, assured Iraq of a long-term partnership but stressed his combat troops deployed here would head home by June next year. ... <cont>

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/rudd-visits-iraqi-pm/2007/12/21/1198175344087.html

I think he's doing a lot of exorcising!!!!

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dlowan wrote:

I think he's doing a lot of exorcising!!!!

Indeed!

And good!

But will he rest on the seventh day? :wink:

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One-year control order on Hicks

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Terry Hicks.
Photo: Lee Besford

Penelope Debelle, Adelaide
December 22, 2007/the AGE

CONFESSED terrorism supporter David Hicks wants to become a "model citizen" and will abide by strict anti-terrorist controls imposed on him yesterday by an Adelaide court.

Hicks will be fingerprinted three times a week and is banned from leaving Australia after he leaves jail next Saturday.

His lawyers did not oppose an interim 12-month control order sought by the Australian Federal Police, the second such order imposed in Australia under new anti-terror laws.

Hicks will begin reporting to an undisclosed South Australian police station from January 31, the first Monday after his release from the high-security Yatala Labour Prison.
His lawyer, David McLeod, said Hicks intended to become "a model citizen" and would obey the eight-part order.

"I think you will find that David's position is that he simply wants to assimilate back into society," Mr McLeod said. "He has had six long years to consider his past activities and by any view of them, 5½ years in the world's most notorious prison plus six months in isolation in the toughest part of Yatala is punishment enough.".......

.....Hicks' father, Terry, said the reporting provisions were restrictive and would interfere with Hicks' hopes of finding employment and studying at university.

"David's been through six years of bloody hell, so what's another 12 months?" he said ...<cont>

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msolga wrote:

dlowan wrote:
I think he's doing a lot of exorcising!!!!

Indeed!

And good!

But will he rest on the seventh day? :wink:

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... & now for the bad news!

Yikes! Some of us are going to have to learn to love living on beans & toast, I think! Shocked

Inflation forecast bad news for rates
Economics correspondent
December 22, 2007/the AUSTRALIAN

INFLATION will rocket to 4 per cent by March, making further rate hikes a near certainty in the new year.

Internal forecasts obtained by The Weekend Australian reveal Treasury expects inflation to remain above 3 per cent - the top of the Reserve Bank of Australia's target band - throughout next year.

The alarming outlook suggests home buyers could face mortgage rates of close to 9 per cent early in the new year.

Interest rates have risen 11 times since 2001, lifting standard variable mortgage rates from 6.05 per cent to 8.55per cent in the last six years of the Howard government.

Former treasurer Peter Costello almost certainly knew during the election campaign that inflation was heading above 3 per cent, although he relied on year-average figures published by Treasury to assert that price rises would remain below the Reserve Bank's ceiling.

However, Treasury has recalculated its internal forecasts since the November 24 election, using the latest official inflation figures for the September quarter and the latest national accounts.

And the new figures show the outlook has become much worse.

The forecasts were presented in the past fortnight to a meeting of the Joint Economic Forecasting Group, which combines representatives from the Prime Minister's Department, the Reserve Bank, the Finance Department and the Australian Bureau of Statistics. It is chaired by Treasury.

The new forecasts explain the level of concern expressed by new Treasurer Wayne Swan about rising inflation in his speech to the Australian Industry Group last week.

"I warn you we face an extended period of elevated inflation," he said.

Mr Swan refused to comment on the forecasts yesterday, but his speech last week revealed he had been advised by Treasury officials that the underlying rate of inflation would come under pressure over the next 18 months. ...<cont>

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So after Mr Rudd beat Mr Howard, I moved on to watching other elections in the rest of the world, including, of course, the U.S. Things in Aus seemed settled down with a lot of yall happy to see Howard go.

I play on-line scrabble where there is opportunity to chat (the only reason I play). An opponent tonight was from Aus and at some point I mentioned Rudd.

She went into a tirade against him (while continuing to beat the hell out of me in the scrabble game). Recession within a year. F*cking unions.

Which brings me back to this thread where, it seems to me, yall eat your young when they are very, um, young.

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realjohnboy wrote:

She went into a tirade against him (while continuing to beat the hell out of me in the scrabble game). Recession within a year. F*cking unions.

We've got plenty of those weasels here. They're only too happy to work their 38 hour weeks, and take their 4 weeks paid annual leave, and their maternity leave, and their paid sick leave, and work under OH&S rules, and earn their overtime and weekend penalties, while taking every opportunity to rail against the very unions which won all these benefits for them.

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Oh, I know that, Wilso. I was just scrolling through the last few pages here and thought I detected a broader disgruntlement with Rudd already. But I went through it all again. Ain't as bad as I thought.

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We're suffering from the policies of the previous government. I've got no issues with Rudd at all.

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Interestingly enough, Labor is inheriting the upward soaring interest rates from the Liberals (and they can't say that the rest of the worlds interest rates are soaring), and may get caught in a US lead recession (if the US goes into recession), or an Australian recession caused by Chinese mortgage meltdown/recession (their banks have 40% bad debts apparently) leading to a decline in need for raw materials, a collapse of prices, and with Australia's current high lending, an inability to pay debts....

...and who do you think will get blamed for all this? Rolling Eyes

Then again, maybe he will become St Kevin and lead a charmed life...

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realjohnboy wrote:

....it seems to me, yall eat your young when they are very, um, young.

You think some of us haven't given Labor a fair go (given it's so early in the piece), rjb?

Perhaps.

Some of the things I'm not totally sold on (like Labor's education policy) I wasn't happy with prior to the election. I would also like to see swifter movement on the promised IR reforms.

But, I gotta say, things feel a lot, lot better now that Howard has been banished! Very Happy

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They're only too happy to work their 38 hour weeks, and take their 4 weeks paid annual leave, and their maternity leave, and their paid sick leave, and work under OH&S rules, and earn their overtime and weekend penalties, while taking every opportunity to rail against the very unions which won all these benefits for them.

Absolutely spot on Wilso
They don't want to be union members, but when the unions win a pay rise, they are there with their hand out.
They are just having a free ride at others expense.

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Oh, I know that, Wilso. I was just scrolling through the last few pages here and thought I detected a broader disgruntlement with Rudd already. But I went through it all again. Ain't as bad as I thought.

People just tend to voice their opinions here, and no politician Kev included, is ever going to satisfy everyone.

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I was specifically thinking of the cartoons. They don't "translate" easily for the casual observer of another country's politics.

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