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Oz election thread #3 - Rudd's Labour

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 02:29 am
Yeehah!!!!



Australia changes asylum seeker detention policies


Updated 8 hours 1 minute ago

The Australian government plans to overhaul Australia's mandatory detention policies.

Mandatory detention will be kept, but significantly altered. There will also be an emphasis on only detaining asylum seekers who pose a risk to the community.

Presenter: Michael Edwards
Speakers: Marion Lay, refugee advocate; Dr Graham Thom, Amnesty International; Liberal MP Judy Moyland

MICHAEL EDWARDS: The Federal Immigration Minister Chris Evans is set to make a speech today outlining changes to the mandatory detention policy.

AM understands mandatory detention will remain but it will instead focus on asylum seekers who pose a risk to the community.

Refugee Advocate Marion Le says she hopes this means most detainees will eventually be able to be released into the community.

MARION LE: Well my understanding would be that he's actually looking at releasing all people who are now detained except those who pose a verifiable I hope, risk to the Australian public or to security.

MICHAEL EDWARDS: AM also understands moves will be made to avoid detaining asylum seekers for long periods of time and that legal assistance will be offered to people denied a visa.

Marion Le says it's a welcome move from the Labor government.

MARION LE: Look I welcome any move by this Government to overcome the years of callous misdirection and abuse, absolute abuse of human beings by the Howard government during the years of the mandatory detention regime.

MICHAEL EDWARDS: Dr Graham Thom from Amnesty International is another refugee advocate hoping the changes will mean the release of many from detention.

Dr Thom says it will send an important message that Australia respects human rights.

GRAHAM THOM: Well I think it's an important signal that Australia is looking to re-engage with its international obligations that we no longer want to be a pariah when it comes to how we detain people who are simply exercising a fundamental human right.

MICHAEL EDWARDS: Another welcoming the changes the Federal Liberal politician, Judi Moylan.

Ms Moylan was one of a group of Liberal politicians who opposed their own party's immigration policies while in government.

JUDI MOYLAN: Clearly my view is well known on this and I don't believe we should be keeping people in detention centres any more than we absolutely have to. There may be occasions when it's necessary but on the face of it I would welcome such a move.







http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/programguide/stories/200807/s2317407.htm









Does this mean we really are back on a track of becoming a decent country?
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 06:10 am
dlowan wrote:
Yeehah!!!!



Australia changes asylum seeker detention policies

Does this mean we really are back on a track of becoming a decent country?




Maybe, just maybe, Deb! Very Happy


Remember all these tragic stories?:

A cruel, cruel deportation from Oz.(& asylum seekers tales)
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46353&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Hard to believe this is all in the past now, isn't it?
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 04:40 pm
I heard it reported this morning that Philip Ruddock says the the current govt can thank the previous govt for being in the situation to change the policy. He still deludes himself that he was doing the right thing. Maybe for his own personal survival he has to be in denial or accept that he ruined innocent lives.
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 02:25 am
hingehead wrote:
I heard it reported this morning that Philip Ruddock says the the current govt can thank the previous govt for being in the situation to change the policy. He still deludes himself that he was doing the right thing. Maybe for his own personal survival he has to be in denial or accept that he ruined innocent lives.


" ...the current govt can thank the previous govt for being in the situation to change the policy .."?

What the hell does Mr Heart of Stone mean by that? Confused
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 02:30 am
I had a bit of a laugh when I heard the Mad Monk's words of love to Peter this morning on AM..:

We love you.

We adore you.

We think you are fabulous!

We want you! (Absolutely!)

And we want you back! (On the front bench, not necessarily as leader!)

Laughing
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 02:35 am
msolga wrote:
I had a bit of a laugh when I heard the Mad Monk's words of love to Peter this morning on AM..:

We love you.

We adore you.

We think you are fabulous!

We want you! (Absolutely!)

And we want you back! (On the front bench, not necessarily as leader!)

Laughing


Who is the Mad Monk?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 02:39 am
dlowan wrote:
msolga wrote:
I had a bit of a laugh when I heard the Mad Monk's words of love to Peter this morning on AM..:

We love you.

We adore you.

We think you are fabulous!

We want you! (Absolutely!)

And we want you back! (On the front bench, not necessarily as leader!)

Laughing


Who is the Mad Monk?




The honorable (sp?) Tony Abbott, Deb.

Lovely fellow! :wink:
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 02:47 am
msolga wrote:
dlowan wrote:
msolga wrote:
I had a bit of a laugh when I heard the Mad Monk's words of love to Peter this morning on AM..:

We love you.

We adore you.

We think you are fabulous!

We want you! (Absolutely!)

And we want you back! (On the front bench, not necessarily as leader!)

Laughing


Who is the Mad Monk?




The honorable (sp?) Tony Abbott, Deb.

Lovely fellow! :wink:



Tony Abbott?


http://worldofjulie.com/images/cat_photos/peatie_yuck.jpg


http://www.magazine.ucla.edu/depts/quicktakes/evolutionary-disgust.jpg


http://mantarctica.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/disgust.jpg


http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/img/disgust.jpg


http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/aaBlog/2004/media/07-23_ExpressionOfDisgust.jpg


http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/disgust.jpg




Do I make myself clear?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 03:00 am
dlowan wrote:
Tony Abbott?


http://worldofjulie.com/images/cat_photos/peatie_yuck.jpg


http://www.magazine.ucla.edu/depts/quicktakes/evolutionary-disgust.jpg


http://mantarctica.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/disgust.jpg


http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/img/disgust.jpg


http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/aaBlog/2004/media/07-23_ExpressionOfDisgust.jpg


http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/disgust.jpg




Do I make myself clear?


Oh absolutely clear, Deb!






Mind you, I believe the poor man is very misunderstood! He just wants what's best for the Libs & best for the country, that's all.

With a friend like this, Peter can feel utterly confident!
So can Brendan!Very Happy
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 03:08 am
.... & while on the subject of Brendan .... it must have been very heartening for him to receive JH's "full support" this weekend. That'll do him wonders!



(I know it's rather bizarre, but I'm starting for feel rather sorry for Brendan ....)
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 03:19 am
Meanwhile, Peter is taking his own good time & keeping folks guessing. (A situation he never, ever dreamed could actually happen! :wink: )

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6178404,00.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 03:28 am
Meantime ...I wonder what Malcolm's up to, then?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 03:54 am
Looks like Brendan (& any other other potential Lib leaders) will have to wait for Peter's book to be published before they can figure out what's happening!:

Nelson lets Costello dictate timing
Samantha Maiden, Online political editor/the Australian
August 04, 2008


THE LIBERAL leadership is now hostage to a book deal, with Brendan Nelson confirming today he is prepared to wait until the release of Peter Costello's political memoirs for a public declaration on his future.

The former treasurer has returned from an overseas holiday only to maintain his public silence ahead of the September 15 release date.

While Dr Nelson is believed to have had a long chat with Mr Costello before his recent holiday where he signalled his intentions, the Liberal leader, who leaves on an official visit to the US and Britain tomorrow, said he was not going to press Mr Costello for a decision.

"I am going to wait," Dr Nelson told Fairfax Radio Network. ..... <cont>

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24125928-601,00.html

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/08/03/moir_gallery__600x346,0.jpg
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 03:42 pm
msolga wrote:
Meantime ...I wonder what Malcolm's up to, then?


Apparently the party room have turned against him because he is straight talking and lets you know what he's thinking. On Insiders one of the journos told a story about Malcolm telling another MP about what he thought of Nelson's latest cockup and said MP called Nelson to warn him that Turnbull was badmouthing him. Nelson said, 'I know, he already called me and told me what he thought.'
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 01:07 am
hingehead wrote:
msolga wrote:
Meantime ...I wonder what Malcolm's up to, then?


Apparently the party room have turned against him because he is straight talking and lets you know what he's thinking. On Insiders one of the journos told a story about Malcolm telling another MP about what he thought of Nelson's latest cockup and said MP called Nelson to warn him that Turnbull was badmouthing him. Nelson said, 'I know, he already called me and told me what he thought.'


I think he's meant to keep his "straight talking" inside the party rooms (where he has not enough support), perhaps, hinge? :wink:

In the meantime ... really, there are no quick fixes to the woes of the Libs in opposition. Though they desperately try to find them. It must be so galling for them not to be in their proper (ruling) place!
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lezzles
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 08:19 pm
Another of my rare cynical forays into the political arena.......

I find it very interesting that 'Iguanagate' has died such a quiet death. Could it be that the police 'investigation' into the incident is taking such a long time to be finalised so there will be little or no reaction when it is announced (as I am sure it will be) that there is no case to answer?

The feeling here on the Central Coast is that a lot of favours have been called in to cover a multitude of sins and that no matter what the police findings eventually are, the whole thing will be quietly swept under the carpet.

Ho hum. What's new?
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 13 Aug, 2008 04:34 am
thanks for alerting us Lezzles. I'll keep it in mind.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 02:03 am
The Rudd/Labor "education revolution" rolls on to it's next phase.
My god, who is advising them? Sad It's very tired stuff, imported from the usual (conservative) places (where those "iniatives" are old hat now & have made bugger-all difference to the most disadvantaged students ...) ... Plus, there are a few key ideas lifted from Howard's Libs as well. Sigh.
I realize few of you get as excited by Labor's education pronouncements as I do ... but hell, you'd think they could come up with something a bit more original & appropriate to our country than this tired old, worn out crapolla....

Some revolution! Sad Shocked Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Neutral
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 02:15 am
@msolga,
I'm kind out of touch...what are they up to?
msolga
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2008 02:41 am
@dlowan,
This'll give you a wee bit of an idea, Deb. Too tired (after a hard day in a school!Wink ) to write too much tonight. They've pin-pointed the problem (Well who could miss it?) but the response is the same old, same old conservative stuff ... Sigh. I really would like to know who IS advising Labor.:

Prime Minister to take on unions over education reforms
Samantha Maiden, Online political editor
August 28, 2008/The AUSTRALIAN


KEVIN Rudd has warned he's ready to brawl with unions and the states to deliver a new ranking system for schools that could see underperforming teachers sacked and schools merged.

The Prime Minister was unapologetic about his plan to deliver more autonomy to principals to hire and fire and boost funding to struggling schools.

"There may be a bit of argy bargy on the way through but I think it's time to do this,'' Mr Rudd told Fairfax Radio Network today.

"We're prepared to have an argument if that's necessary ... you can't simply allow our kids to be in schools which are consistently underperforming.''

Mr Rudd must now seek agreement from the states to reveal the performance of their schools from next year, with individual school reports available to parents within three years that detail their child's results and a comparison against a group of comparable schools.

But the Prime Minister said the new transparency would not deliver league tables ranking all schools as such because only schools with a similar socio-economic profile would be compared. Mr Rudd said the Coalition had talked tough on transparency but failed to deliver.

"We are moving to a system where we can compare apples with apples,'' he said.

"I notice the Liberals were saying that they had come up with some of these ideas in the past, well that's terrific.

"Twelve years (they were) in government, 24 reports on boosting quality education in our schools ... and not much to show for it in terms of real action.

"I think it's time to get on with this.''

But the Opposition has accused the government of a "me-too" approach on transparency today.

Opposition treasury spokesman Malcolm Turnbull says Labor has simply rehashed Coalition policy.

"From what we have seen, it appears to be, essentially a reheated Coalition policy, much of which has already been legislated,'' he said.

Greens senator Christine Milne says the government's approach is just an extension of the previous Howard government policy.

"It's punitive, it's saying principals perform or heads will roll,'' she told reporters.

"It's shifting responsibility for the educational outcomes of the nation onto the shoulders of principals and making them personally responsible, when the government isn't adequately funding schools to be able to do the job.''

Education Minister Julia Gillard stressed the plan would not provide for a league table of all schools.

"There's no point in the world with comparing a rich school on Sydney's north shore with Elizabeth North in South Australia and how the school is going there,'' she said.

"Our whole plan is to analyse student population and compare like schools with like schools.''

"We're pledging a school like that with difficulties ... would get resources of $500,000 a year extra to make a difference and to bring that school up to standard.''

with agencies


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24254264-2702,00.html
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