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softener sucks ? nope it doesn't

 
 
briney
 
Reply Thu 25 Oct, 2007 09:59 am
I just bought a house with an older Kenmore softener. It does not appear to be sucking brine to the resin chamber. Here is what I did:
- tested water hardness - same before and after the softener
- cleaned venturi assembly
- ran regen cycle - no water rise in fill cycle, no drop in brining cycle, but motor runs and turns valve through all cycles just fine
- there is a small stream of water draining during regen (during fill and brining)
- pulled out the brine valve - depressing valve allows water to enter during fill cycle
- removed hose from brine valve during brining cycle - there was no suction at this point; water level does not drop; interestingly, water was coming out of the tupe during the brining cycle
- disassembled venturi assembly - compared to annimation on Kenmorewater.com - my venturi seems to be missing the flow plug that sits on the venturi nozzle, but this part is not listed in the kenmore manual; also, I have the small screen that sits in the lower gasket, but this is also not listed in my Kenmore manual. Sears unable to help to determine if the flow plug is required or provide a part #.
Would anyone know whether the flow plug is required, or how to ensure brine is being sucked to the resin chamber ?
Thanks
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ghestrada
 
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Reply Mon 17 Dec, 2007 10:28 pm
I have a Kenmore unit circa 2000. Worked flawlessly for the past 6 years, then suddenly no soft water.

I replaced the gasket and cleaned the venturi disk as instructed by the annimated trouble shooting guide on the www.kenmorewater.com website. I too noticed no suction during the brining portion of the regeneration (in fact, water was flowing into the brine tank just like you reported!)

After disassembling and cleaning the venturi completely (even using pipe cleaners in the water ways and soaking in CLR cleaner) the only change that I found was that water was no longer flowing into the tank during brining. There was some sucking sound, but not what I would define as enough suction to lift water into the venturi.

Then I noticed a footnote on the annimation that stated that the flow plug on the venturi disk may not be necessary under certain water pressure conditions (none were offered.) I decided to remove the flow plug just to check it out. There was an incredible amount of suction! The brine level fell from the "6" to the "3" or about 10".

I put everything back together and ran it thru two regeneration cycles.
I will need to order the replacement flow plug for the one I removed, even though there was nothing visible wrong with it to just to make sure (it worked for years with it in, so a new one may be all that is needed).

You can go online to reference the owners manual on the Sears parts web site (http://www3.sears.com/) to determine what the part numbers are and place an order for them.

Hope this helps.
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