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The XO Laptop

 
 
Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 09:45 am
I just heard about this super efficient minimalistic laptop designed for children in developing countries.

http://laptop.org/en/laptop/

I normally don't get excited about new technology, but this one has me curious. Things I find interesting are:

alternate power sources (hand crank, etc...)
minimalist hardware (ergo minimalist OS and software)
built in support for other languages
interesting UI

I'm just curious enough to jump on the promotional offer -- "give one, get one" -- just so that I can see what it's about. Has anyone else ever heard of this?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 10:15 am
Oh thanks, I was going to open something about this.

So much looks so cool!

I'm definitely thinking about this for sozlet. (Buy one for her, get one for another kid, all for $400.)

There was a great article about it in the NYT, let me get that...
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 10:16 am
Here we go:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/technology/circuits/04pogue.html
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 10:28 am
I love this:

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The camera module permits teachers, for the first time, to send messages home to illiterate parents.


and this:

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Most of the XO's programs are shareable on the mesh network, which is another ingenious twist. Any time you're word processing, making music, taking pictures, playing games or reading an e-book, you can click a Share button. Your document shows up next to your icon on the mesh-network map, so that other people can see what you're doing, or work with you. Teachers can supervise your writing, buddies can collaborate on a document, friends can play you in Connect 4, or someone across the room can add a melody to your drum beat in the music program. You've never seen anything like it.


That's more about the usage for the other kid than us, but I think that's great stuff.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:19 am
Oh cool! Yes, I'm planning to get one for sure, maybe two if we have some extra money, and I love the idea that each one I buy for my kids provides one for a kid in the developing world.

The durability described in the article is also very cool. I remember when we had Duckie (no Ducklet yet) and he was still a baby, I kept thinking how cool it would be to make a child proof laptop (in terms of durability not keeping them out). This seems like what I was thinking of.

I'm curious about the Mesh network as I've never heard of it. I get that each laptop is a router, but not much else. Definitely will have to do some more research there. Glad I'm not alone in thinking this is cool.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:20 am
And the price, even at $400 is a great deal. Two laptops for the price of an iPhone.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:22 am
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It's easy to see how that might happen. There's no CD/DVD drive at all, no hard drive and only a 7.5-inch screen. The Linux operating system doesn't run Microsoft Office, Photoshop or any other standard Mac or Windows programs. The membrane-sealed, spillproof keyboard is too small for touch-typing by an adult.


On this -- OpenOffice does run on Linux. I wonder what impact installing it would have on performance. I'm starting to get impatient to get my hands on one just to play with it.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:29 am
Me too. I just signed up for the reminder email.

One thing I'm not clear about is how it works for regular internet uses. Example -- the kid loves to play on Webkinz.com. Sounds like it wouldn't really work for that. More for educational uses (word processing) and music and general experimentation-type stuff, all of which I approve of. But the main reason she hovers over me and whines about wanting to use the computer when I'm trying to get work done is Webkinz-type stuff (or Nick.com, or...), and I'm not sure it'd be worth it to get one and then still have her want to use my computer anyway.

Do you have a feel for that?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:42 am
I think it does support regular internet usage, but the mesh networking is to create local peer to peer networks in the case where there is no internet access. If one computer has internet access then others can access that automatically since the one acts as a router. So, the only thing holding sozlet back from using the internet would be a browser. I haven't seen specs on whether one is included, and the standard browsers available are resource heavy making them not ideal for this application. I'll dig and see what I can find out.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:45 am
Ah, found it.

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Applications will include a web browser built on Xulrunner, the run-time environment used by the Firefox browser;...
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:46 am
(Duh to self, the browser bit was in the article. I skipped right over it.)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:47 am
Seems like it has its own web browser:

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The built-in programs are equally clever. There's a word processor, Web browser, calculator, PDF textbook reader, some games (clones of Tetris and Connect 4), three music programs, a painting application, a chat program and so on.


(From the Pogue article.)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 11:49 am
Jinx...!

OK, so that's answered.

I don't speak Computer well enough to make sense of this:

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I think both Webkinz and Nick.com are pretty bloaty -- but not sure how to determine that.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 12:01 pm
Yeah, I know for sure Nick.com is bloaty (lots of flash and client-side memory usage), even for my iBook, so there will probably be an issue there. It's something to keep in mind.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 12:10 pm
Another bit that has me interested and that I can see at least one of my kids (and myself) taking advantage of:

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There are also three programming environments of different degrees of sophistication. Incredibly, one keystroke reveals the underlying code of almost any XO program or any Web page. Students can not only study how their favorite programs have been written, but even experiment by making changes. (If they make a mess of things, they can restore the original.)
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 12:15 pm
Yeah, that's so great. I can't see myself doing it... maybe... but I bet sozlet would love it. She's a major experimenter (take stuff apart, put it back together. She keeps doing stuff on my computer that puts me into a panic, then she fixes it with a patronizing roll of her eyes. Kids today, I tell ya...)
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 12:21 pm
Whippersnappers.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2007 10:06 pm
I ordered two and the kids got them yesterday (we don't really celebrate Christmas, so we didn't wait). They LOVE them. I am so impressed. They're playing with them right now, as a matter of fact, and played with them last night for almost 4 hours. I'll try to summarize my awe.

Collaboration -- the reviews I've read that involved children evaluating the XO were interesting, but I don't think you grasp the full power until you have two or more kids collaborating. Every activity on the XO can be shared. One of my kids invites the other (they're automagically on the same mesh network) to chat or play the memory game or any of the other activities and everything is suddenly twice as much fun. I'm thinking that this is where kids in educational environments will get the most value.

Intuitive interface -- my daughter, who is almost 6, seems to almost instinctively know where to go and just discovers things spontaneously. This makes me think it will be a hit with the not-quite-yet-reading crowd.

The cool activities -- I can't name them all, but my current favorite is the acoustic tape measure. Two collaborating kids stand a distance apart and their laptops measure the distance between them by sending sound bursts to each other. There's also a built in camera that does video. The kids had a blast taking video of themselves and each other.

It's not really that slow -- not to a kid and not really to me, either. There's a small delay when starting programs, but it's not much worse than a slightly delayed web page. As long as you shut down activities when you're done with them, the performance is fine.

The OLPC library -- is included as a tool bar that hangs on the left of the browser. It has world maps, an encyclopedia, dictionary, and lots of other interesting bits.

It's idiot proof -- that's right, mom broke Ducklet's laptop this morning while poking around in the command line interface (it's Linux underneath) and almost broke down in tears before finding out that these things ship with a backup install image that you can boot from in case of emergencies. Whew!

Overall, these things are way better than I thought they'd be. I'm really, really glad I got them for my kids and even more happy that two kids somewhere in Afghanistan or Indonesia got them too. And that last bit made my kids feel pretty good.
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eoe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2007 10:16 pm
This is so cool FreeDuck. Thanks for all of the info. We got ours in yesterday also and it's sitting under the Christmas tree. We haven't decided just how to donate it yet. Through a school, church or a program for underpriviledged kids. I just want to make sure that it gets to a child who will truly appreciate and benefit from it.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2007 10:33 pm
Awesome, I didn't know you'd ordered one too. I don't know how to go about finding a child to donate to in the U.S., but I hope you find someone to give it to who will get the most from it.

When I told my son that two kids in another country got these because we donated them he said "I hope it isn't a country we're at war with, because then they'll just get burned up." The kid kills me.
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