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Can anyone idetify dutch artist ed toffels? 1930?

 
 
FVV
 
Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 01:11 pm
Was left an oil painting of Amsterdam, Holland dated 1930 by Ed Stoffels
It looks like from the posts I can clean it using Windsor & Newton cleaner using an unbleached flannel cloth
Is that correct?

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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 05:18 pm
welcome to a2k , FVV !

here is a bit of info on cleaning oil paintings - BUT NOTE THE DISCLAIMER !!!

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Any advice about cleaning an oil painting that's covered in dust or yellowed varnish must come with a major disclaimer. More than other kinds of do-it-yourself projects, cleaning oil paintings should really be trusted to expert conservators. However, if your painting is not that old, not terribly valuable, or not too important, there are a few possible ways to make it look brighter and cleaner yourself. Furthermore, altering true antiques almost always decreases their value, whether or not they look better to you.

Before the 1940s, paintings of oil on canvas were frequently covered with a layer of varnish to add sheen and protect the thick layer of paint, called the impasto. Yet varnish reacts differently to the environment than does paint, so these varnish seals end up cracking, yellowing, or gumming up over time. It can make the original hue of the oil paints look dull or discolored.

If it seems that your painting is older, assess whether the paint is in good shape but the varnish has aged. In this case, try applying a mild solvent called a conservation liquid. Art supply stores might sell an "emulsion" designed to clean and remove varnish. There is always a chance that the solvent will also damage or remove the oil paint. If you are willing to risk this possibility, dab the emulsion with a cotton swab very delicately. Try spot-testing one corner before moving on to the entire canvas. Work in an area with adequate ventilation.

For recent paintings, your problem is more likely a build-up of dust, smoke, pet hair, dander, and even bacterial or fungal growth. In this case, make sure none of the paint is ready to come off the canvas or board, meaning that it doesn't exhibit any cracks or flakes. Then you can carefully dust the surface with a very soft, dry bristle brush, such as a baby toothbrush or shaving cream brush.

When the surface is sticky, grimy, or oily, you may want to take the cleaning a step further and actually use a mild detergent solution. Again, generally speaking, oil and water should never mix, as moisture can damage both the canvas and the impasto. Proceeding with caution, use brand new cotton cloths dipped in a mixture of dish soap and warm water. Lightly blot the surface, but don't scrub, wipe, or rub at the painting. At no point should you submerge any part of the painting, nor allow so much moisture that it drips or pools.

For the experimental types, people have come up with some unorthodox methods of getting dirt off an oil painting. White bread seems to work. Ball up soft, sticky, doughy white bread and gently rub it against the canvas. You'll see it blacken like a pencil eraser. Brush off the crumbs. You also might try a low-suction vacuum with a brush nozzle. This should remove pet hair and dust balls in a deeply textured painting.



click on link below for more info :
CLEANING AN OIL PAINTING
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Sglass
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:24 pm
If you think the painting has any merit and possible value, I would suggest taking it to a local museum. If they cannot help you identify the artist, and the medium used to paint the picture, they can point you in the right direction.

I have cleaned paintings with a very mild solution of soap and water with no detrimental effects.Ask first or have it done professionally.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:28 pm
I wouldn't use water, before asking conservators.
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Sglass
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:30 pm
Any thoughts on removing nicotene Osso?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:31 pm
I washed a painting my parents had, fairly nice, by a decent painter of the thirties. It crumpled before my eyes, not having been painted on a gesso base.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:34 pm
No, not off hand, she says as an old smoker. That is probably look-up-able.
I won't even guess as my thoughts might cause actions which could be very wrong.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:43 pm
That painting from the thirties was an oil by Chip Wood of a california spanish house. With any luck, I have a photo somewhere of the original, before I killed it with water.
Chip Wood did, at some point, the original art for the air force insignia. There were three plaster of paris models and then the bronze (I gather). I know Hap Arnold had one, my dad had one, and I don't remember who else. My ex bro in law still has the one from my dad, somewhat broken and patched.

I know the name sounds jokey, but that was what they called him.
Sglass
 
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Reply Sun 7 Oct, 2007 11:45 pm
MA has quite a number of beautiful paintings done by several well know Latvian artists which have a layer of nicotene on them which has really dimmed the brillance of the original color. I am considering getting them cleaned by a professional.

I made a boo boo with an 1850's painting that I bought, so I know the heartbreak of damaging something of rare beauty.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 12:27 am
Well, back in LA, when I wanted to know something, I called the LA County museum Conservancy department, or some name like that, and talked with them a few minutes. Not that you should nag wherever, but nowadays there might be a website or a helpsite. Maybe this or that solvent or - not solvent! but cleaner. I could name stuff, but some of it might be baaaad.

Lightwizard is pretty smart on all this if you catch him...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 8 Oct, 2007 12:29 am
ossobuco wrote:
That painting from the thirties was an oil by Chip Wood of a california spanish house. With any luck, I have a photo somewhere of the original, before I killed it with water.
Chip Wood did, at some point, the original art for the air force insignia. There were three plaster of paris models and then the bronze (I gather). I know Hap Arnold had one, my dad had one, and I don't remember who else. My ex bro in law still has the one from my dad, somewhat broken and patched.

I know the name sounds jokey, but that was what they called him.


(Presume his name was Charles..)
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Sglass
 
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Reply Tue 9 Oct, 2007 06:02 am
Better than Chip Monk Laughing
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2007 09:12 am
He was probably a "chip off the old block".
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nellab
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 03:23 pm
Chip Wood, Artist
I have 6 Chip Wood oil paintings. He lived with our family for 6 mo. as he painted scenes from our ranch and all five of my brother and sister's.
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nellab
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 03:32 pm
Chip Wood, Artist
Can you tell me more about the California Spanish home he painted??
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Frits
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jun, 2009 01:50 am
@FVV,
Ed. Stoffels in fact was Eduard Stoffels. He was my greatuncle, born 1874 in Hoorn, Noord-Holland, The Netherlands, and died 1951 in Nieuwer-Amstel, Noord-Holland. He was an earthware painter by origin, but after his factory in Amersfoort burned down in 1908, he established himself in Amsterdam, and earned there his living by oil painting. Could you please send me a picture of the painting? For more information, write to fritsstoffels at chello . nl. You're welcome!
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nellab
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 12:23 pm
@ossobuco,
I have several painting by Chip Wood, he painted my moyther on horseback and all five of the Abercrombie Children, Do you know anymore about him???
[email protected]
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