Don't tell me there's any proof for creationism.

Setanta wrote:

You're the one making the claim that you have provided evidence for creationism. If you make a claim, you have the burden of demonstrating your claim. I'm not obliged to do your leg work for you, you pathetic, dim-witted bible thumper...

Then don't do it. Given your chosen position - I probably wouldn't do it either.

Setanta wrote:

The title of the thread is "Don't tell me there's any proof for creationism." I've seen no such proof. You claim you have provided evidence (which is not the same thing as proof)--but given your unwillingness to show the evidence you provided, and furthermore to explain why it should be considered proof--i consider you a liar.

I have shown the evidence - you didn't like it. No real surprise there! Do you really think I will lose any sleep over whether you consider me to be a liar or not? Rolling Eyes

Keep those heels dug in - they fit you well.

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You've shown no proof, and when you claim you have shown evidence, i consider you a liar, because you are unwilling to point out the evidence you claim to have provided.

The only reasonable conclusion is that Wilso's thread has demonstrated to date that no one has any proof for creationism.

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Setanta wrote:

You've shown no proof, and when you claim you have shown evidence, i consider you a liar, because you are unwilling to point out the evidence you claim to have provided.

The only reasonable conclusion is that Wilso's thread has demonstrated to date that no one has any proof for creationism.

ad naseum

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Put up or shut up, bible-thumper. Here, let me nauseate you again:

You've shown no proof, and when you claim you have shown evidence, i consider you a liar, because you are unwilling to point out the evidence you claim to have provided.

The only reasonable conclusion is that Wilso's thread has demonstrated to date that no one has any proof for creationism.

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I'd like to contribute to the naseum (this isn't ad naseum by the way).

Setanta wrote:

Put up or shut up, bible-thumper. Here, let me nauseate you again:

You've shown no proof, and when you claim you have shown evidence, i consider you a liar, because you are unwilling to point out the evidence you claim to have provided.

The only reasonable conclusion is that Wilso's thread has demonstrated to date that no one has any proof for creationism.

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maporsche wrote:

I'd like to contribute to the naseum (this isn't ad naseum by the way)...

rep: Once you've provided an equitable definition for "evidence" - one that does not move - my big mouth will be more than happy to do so. :wink:

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baddog1 wrote:

maporsche wrote:
I'd like to contribute to the naseum (this isn't ad naseum by the way)...

rep: Once you've provided an equitable definition for "evidence" - one that does not move - my big mouth will be more than happy to do so. :wink:

Like Set said...I don't see a problem with using whatever definition you meant when you said you provided evidence.

Let's use your definintion, whatever one you used previously. I/we obviously do not know what your definition is, but let's use it anyway.

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maporsche wrote:

baddog1 wrote:
maporsche wrote:
I'd like to contribute to the naseum (this isn't ad naseum by the way)...

rep: Once you've provided an equitable definition for "evidence" - one that does not move - my big mouth will be more than happy to do so. :wink:

Like Set said...I don't see a problem with using whatever definition you meant when you said you provided evidence.

Let's use your definintion, whatever one you used previously. I/we obviously do not know what your definition is, but let's use it anyway.

Nope. Tried that. Even used the author's definition. That bar moved as well.

You guys crack me up. I'm offering you the key to the safe and you still won't take it. Like stated to set - you need the ability to move the bar to support your chosen position. It's like an addiction, a habit, an emotional amphetamine... Laughing

I'm standing pat on: "Once you've provided an equitable definition for "evidence" - one that does not move - my big mouth will be more than happy to do so. :wink: And just for set - I'm also asking for an equitable definition for 'proof'. Either or both is fine w/me.

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So when you said you provided evidence.....you were lying?

Do you mind if I ask what definition you used for your statement......not for argument's sake, but just out of curiosity?

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That's hilarious--the bible-thumper is standing pat.

Told that he is a liar, told that he has provided no proof for creationism, he's going to stand pat.

That's OK by me. I have no problem with accepting the conclusion that BD is a liar. I have no problem with accepting that no one has offered a shred of proof for creationism.

BD's got a busted flush and he's standing pat.

Say, BD, would you like to come over this weekend for some poker? I could use some extra cash.

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maporsche wrote:

So when you said you provided evidence.....you were lying?

Do you mind if I ask what definition you used for your statement......not for argument's sake, but just out of curiosity?

Again - right!

The definition(s) are there for anyone to locate. I've stated my position and made a fair & generous offer with no takers.

In case anyone forgot:

rep: rep: Once you've provided an equitable definition for "evidence" - one that does not move - my big mouth will be more than happy to do so. :wink:

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Setanta wrote:

That's hilarious--the bible-thumper is standing pat.

Told that he is a liar, told that he has provided no proof for creationism, he's going to stand pat.

That's OK by me. I have no problem with accepting the conclusion that BD is a liar. I have no problem with accepting that no one has offered a shred of proof for creationism.

BD's got a busted flush and he's standing pat.

Say, BD, would you like to come over this weekend for some poker? I could use some extra cash.

Might be fun - however the deck would surely be tainted as you cannot function on equal footing.

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Lest anyone forget:

BD claimed to have provided "evidence," but won't link the post in which that evidence is provided--so he's probably a liar. The title of the thread is "Don't tell me there's any proof for creationism." To date, none of the bible-thumpers have met Wilso's challenge to provide proof for creationism.

BD, peeing in his short pants there, is hiding behind a word game.

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baddog1 wrote:

Setanta wrote:
That's hilarious--the bible-thumper is standing pat.

Told that he is a liar, told that he has provided no proof for creationism, he's going to stand pat.

That's OK by me. I have no problem with accepting the conclusion that BD is a liar. I have no problem with accepting that no one has offered a shred of proof for creationism.

BD's got a busted flush and he's standing pat.

Say, BD, would you like to come over this weekend for some poker? I could use some extra cash.

Might be fun - however the deck would surely be tainted as you cannot function on equal footing.

Honest poker games (honesty is a word you might have to look up, since you're so poor with definitions, and seem to be fond of lying) are played with brand new decks, which are not opened until the players sit down at the table.

As for functioning on an equal footing, i'd love to--but, alas, i can do nothing about the fact that you bring a rhetorical small stick to a rhetorical gun fight. It is certainly not my fault that you are not sufficiently equipped intellectually to deal with the debate here.

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Why should BD provide proof for Creationism to those who don't provide proof of it all being some strange accident of matter/energy which can't be seen anywhere else and which has no inspiring stories to tell.

Our world is here in all its wonders and we are walking around amid it all.

So an explanation involving inspiring stories might be superior to an explanation by determinism which results in apathy or is built on the will to power of scientists and the coalition which rides their coat-tails.

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Spendi, Spendi, Spendi. Get some help. I and your illusionary readers are here for ya buddy!

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Setanta wrote-

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but, alas, i can do nothing about the fact that you bring a rhetorical small stick to a rhetorical gun fight.

He also wrote, as a rare contribution to the most prestigious thread on the site-

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Spurious is a f*cking idiot, in love with the sound of his own pathetic voice.

Which is just about the smallest rhetorical stick there is going.

TCR- You are there for yourself. Forget about being here for me. It's bullshit.

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Setanta wrote:

[Honest poker games (honesty is a word you might have to look up, since you're so poor with definitions, and seem to be fond of lying) are played with brand new decks, which are not opened until the players sit down at the table.

As for functioning on an equal footing, i'd love to--but, alas, i can do nothing about the fact that you bring a rhetorical small stick to a rhetorical gun fight. It is certainly not my fault that you are not sufficiently equipped intellectually to deal with the debate here.

You are a funny one set. Now I see that you (who's been offered an excellent opportunity to use his talents & beliefs and post an equitable definition - but cannot) are claiming that I am the one who is "so poor with definitions". Perhaps you need some sleep - not sure.

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spendius wrote:

TCR- You are there for yourself...

Ohhh - that one got me spendius! Talk about hitting the proverbial nail on the head. That was great!!! :wink:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BFEhkIujA

This will no doubt get quickly bounced to the political forum - but Mr. Huckabee tells it like it is on the subject of this thread!

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Don't tell me there's any proof for creationism.

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