Don't tell me there's any proof for creationism.

I'm glad you've have deep spiritual experiences, but that wasn't the experience of anything higher than the power of your own brain.

Joe(you have the power to light your own way)Nation

rosborne979 wrote:

Given the obvious variability of the Earth's rotation, do you think that extrapolating the present spin decay back in time, is a reliable method of determining the earth's age?

Do you think that since it's difficult , that it's not possible?

If the Earth was spinning at a much quicker pace billions of years ago when it was supposedly in a molten state, do you think that would've had an effect on the shape of the planet?

Ive just gotten up to the post where RL was trying to convince Thomas that there exist cave paintings of dinosaurs.


Now thats entertainment.

Dont mind me , this is just a sort of bookmark.

Ive just gotten up to the post where RL was trying to convince Thomas that there exist cave paintings of dinosaurs.

real life wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:

Given the obvious variability of the Earth's rotation, do you think that extrapolating the present spin decay back in time, is a reliable method of determining the earth's age?

Do you think that since it's difficult , that it's not possible?

It's not a matter of it being difficult, it's a matter of it being variable. Without knowing the variations in time and scope, it's impossible to project back accurately.

Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you would accept a uniformitarian assumption in one area, but reject it in another.

The need to selectively apply principle is one of evolution's most glaring errors.

real life wrote:

Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you would accept a uniformitarian assumption in one area, but reject it in another.

The need to selectively apply principle is one of evolution's most glaring errors.

You can't make arguments based on evolution being true if you want to stand by your "principle" that evolution is false.

OK real life,

I see you have decided that "misquoting" is not just leaving out some words when you post the quote. Thanks for taking a position on it. :wink:

I happened to stop on this little tidbit

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which makes me glad I skipped right past the entire thing.

"If manking has been living and working on planet Earth for millions of years....."

WHO has EVER said something that INSANE. If the author thinks that this is the position that scientists believe, then his entire article is suspect.

Located in the Afar triangle of the African Rift Valley, Gona has yielded the world's oldest archaeological sites, with very early stone tools dated to between 2.5 and 2.6 million years ago.

INDO-PACIFIC PREHISTORY ASSOCIATION CONGRESS, 20-26 MARCH 2006, MANILA
About 1.7 million years ago, a leggy human ancestor, Homo erectus, began prowling the steamy swamps and uplands of Java. That much is known from the bones of more than 100 individuals dug up on the Indonesian island since 1891. But the culture of early "Java Man" has been a mystery: No artifacts older than 1 million years had been found--until now.
At the meeting, archaeologist Harry Widianto of the National Research Centre of Archaeology in Yogyakarta, Indonesia, wowed colleagues with slides showing stone tools found in sediments that he says were laid down 1.2 million years ago and could be as old as 1.6 million years. The find, at a famous hominid site called Sangiran in the Solo Basin of Central Java, "opens up a whole new window into the lifeways of Java Man," says paleoanthropologist Russell L. Ciochon of the University of Iowa in Iowa City.

Although hominids apparently evolved in Africa, Indonesia is a Garden of Eden in its own right, with a wealth of H. erectus fossils. The startling discovery 2 years ago of "hobbits"--the diminutive H. floresiensis of Flores Island--added a controversial new hominid to the Indonesian menagerie.

In 1998, Widianto found stone flakes in the 800,000-year-old Grenzbank layer at Sangiran, whose well-plumbed sediments reach back 2 million years. Then in September 2004, his team struck gold in a layer dated by extrapolation from the rocks around it to 1.2 million years ago. Over 2 months, they unearthed 220 flakes--several centimeters long, primarily made of chalcedony, and ranging in color from beige to blood red--in a 3-by-3-meter section of sand deposited by an ancient river.

The find, not yet published, could be even more spectacular than Widianto realizes, says Ciochon. His team, which also works at Sangiran, has used ultraprecise argon-argon radiometric methods to date the volcanic strata overlying the levels excavated by Widianto to 1.58 million to 1.51 million years ago--making the flakes at least 1.6 million years old. If the flakes were undisturbed, Ciochon says, they would represent "some of the earliest evidence of the human manufacture of stone artifacts outside of Africa." Their antiquity would match that of the oldest flakes found in China, at Majuangou, dated to 1.66 million years ago and also made of chert.

Located in the Afar triangle of the African Rift Valley, Gona has yielded the world's oldest archaeological sites, with very early stone tools dated to between 2.5 and 2.6 million years ago. The archaeological record in the Gona area contains sites spanning a large range of Stone Age prehistory, from different periods of the Oldowan, through early and later Acheulean times, and up to the Middle Stone Age. In addition, the Gona study area has produced a number of early hominid fossils from a range of time periods, including Ardipithecus from about 4.5 million years ago, early Homo at about 1.7 million years ago, and Homo erectus at about 1 million years ago.