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Don't tell me there's any proof for creationism.

 
 
real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 03:52 pm
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:

read the context (something Set routinely ignores) and see what was actually being discussed.

Why would I bother doing that?


Um, because you wanted to know what was actually being discussed?

ok maybe you don't

my bad
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 03:57 pm
real life wrote:
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My comments posted here are not a grand crusade to protect the uninformed, as you seem to presume your task to be.
When did I say that? You seem to have some reading comprehension problems. I said your intent was to mislead the uninformed and you seem to be admitting that with this statement by you.

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My comments represent my own opinion, nothing more.
Nice to know. We now can all rest easy knowing you are not promoting any scientific knowledge but only your opinion.

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Again, I reiterate that it is absurd for a moral relativist to accuse ANYONE of ANYTHING at ANYTIME.
Of course, you have no support for this statement by you. It is only your opinion and can be ignored for what it is.

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Therefore, your accusations directed at me are great comedy, but not much else.
Yes, watching you run around in circles is great comedy. And true, it isn't much else other than perhaps revealing you for the opinionated charlatan you are.

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Your opinion of 'my intent' is worth exactly what I paid for it.
As is the worth of your opinion on anything since in your own words you only ever give opinion.

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If you don't consider science to be limited to the study of the natural, what do you think it is?
A nice opinion of yours that again can be ignored since it is only opinion.
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Is the investigation of the supernatural part of scientific inquiry?
Is that your opinion?
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 03:58 pm
parados wrote:
real life wrote:


---Never said the word 'natural' only applied to science.
You didn't? Really? You said and let me quote..

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If it ain't 'natural', it ain't science, right?




Get help parados.

Nowhere does my statement say that the word 'natural' can only be used in science. Rolling Eyes
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:00 pm
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
real life wrote:


---Never said the word 'natural' only applied to science.
You didn't? Really? You said and let me quote..

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If it ain't 'natural', it ain't science, right?




Get help parados.

Nowhere does my statement say that the word 'natural' can only be used in science. Rolling Eyes

And nowhere does it say it can't. Your use of the word "supernatural" applied to the unexplained would certainly imply that natural only has one meaning for you as well.
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:01 pm
parados wrote:
real life wrote:
Is the investigation of the supernatural part of scientific inquiry?
Is that your opinion?


Actually it's a question.

The little curved mark with the dot under it signifies same.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:04 pm
real life wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:

read the context (something Set routinely ignores) and see what was actually being discussed.

Why would I bother doing that?


Um, because you wanted to know what was actually being discussed?

ok maybe you don't

my bad

You're running from your quotes, and you're just trying to get us to come with you.

T
K
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:06 pm
I understand that that you posed it as question real life, I asked if it was your opinion.

I don't see any reason for you to be able to hide your opinion behind rhetorical questions, do you?
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:09 pm
parados wrote:
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
real life wrote:


---Never said the word 'natural' only applied to science.
You didn't? Really? You said and let me quote..

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If it ain't 'natural', it ain't science, right?




Get help parados.

Nowhere does my statement say that the word 'natural' can only be used in science. Rolling Eyes

And nowhere does it say it can't. Your use of the word "supernatural" applied to the unexplained would certainly imply that natural only has one meaning for you as well.


I didn't use the term 'supernatural' because something was 'unexplained'.

It was when the explanation given included that the 'singularity' that preceded BB was not subject to the physical laws of our universe, and further, that there is no evidence that said 'singularity' actually ever existed.
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:10 pm
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:

read the context (something Set routinely ignores) and see what was actually being discussed.

Why would I bother doing that?


Um, because you wanted to know what was actually being discussed?

ok maybe you don't

my bad

You're running from your quotes, and you're just trying to get us to come with you.

T
K
O


Actually I was asking you to read my quotes --- in context.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:10 pm
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
real life wrote:
Is the investigation of the supernatural part of scientific inquiry?
Is that your opinion?


Actually it's a question.

The little curved mark with the dot under it signifies same.

Then the answer is "no." The reasons is because until the supernatural or theological for that matter become testable, they won't be worthy of scientific inquiry. When that day comes, they'll enter the arena and be evaluated by their merits.

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real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:13 pm
parados wrote:
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
real life wrote:
Is the investigation of the supernatural part of scientific inquiry?
Is that your opinion?


Actually it's a question.

The little curved mark with the dot under it signifies same.


I understand that that you posed it as question real life, I asked if it was your opinion.

I don't see any reason for you to be able to hide your opinion behind rhetorical questions, do you? .


It's not a rhetorical question. It's an actual question that you dodged by asking a nonsense question.

You seemed unwilling to admit that science was only concerned with the study of the natural, thus my question.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:14 pm
real life wrote:
I've not denied that parados' remark is elitist.


This is a perfect example of your inability to carry on a logical conversation, either from ignorance or dishonesty. Very likely, it is a product of both.

I have not said that Parados' remark was elitist. In fact, i've been arguing all along that a reference to "uninformed" is value neutral, and has no elitist character, and that you twisted what he said by substituting "ignorant masses" precisely because you wish to make him sound elitist, when there was no elitist character in his original remark.

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However, you have not been able to defend your lame statement that his accusation of 'intending to mislead' is to be considered 'value-neutral'.


I have nothing to defend, since i did not at any time make any such statement. You are such a pathetic liar. At no time did i state or imply that Parados accusing you of intending to mislead were value neutral. In fact, it is an accusation against you, and one with which i agree.

As i have consistently pointed out, you twisted "uniformed," which is value neutral (and that is what i have been saying all along) to "ignorant masses," because you intend to deceive about this as you do about everything else.

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Go on, defend his comment and yours.


I have nothing to defend. What i said was patently evident. However, you continue to lie about, and i intend to point out your lies each time you indulge in them.

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Don't just focus on one word and claim it to be 'value-neutral'.


Did your imaginary friend god die and leave you in charge. I have every right to, and intend to continue to point out that uninformed is value neutral, but that substituting "ignorant masses" for uniformed is a willfull act of deceit.

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The word was used in a sentence.

Don't snip one word away from the context and pretend that the rest of the comment doesn't exist.


You're really piss poor at this kind of thing. When i challenged your lie, you were the one who quoted Parados, after "snipping" off the word uninformed--very likely because, as dense as you are, you saw your position was indefensible.

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You said the 'comment' was 'value-neutral'. The comment wasn't only a single word.


No, but it was only a single word which you chose to distort, which is typical of you. And when i replied, you were the one who attempted to change the record by quoting Parados, and leaving off the word "uninformed."

What a goddamned liar you are . . . and here's another example of how you always practice deceit. I did not "try" to substitute "unnatural" or "non-natural" for supernatural. You have no basis upon which to insist upon "supernatural." You only want to insist upon supernatural because you want to imply your boy god has something to do with it.

So, in sum, we so far have absolutely no proof for creationism.

We do have, though, abundant proof, overwhelming proof, that "real life" is a liar, who will stoop to the very depths of idiocy to attempt to defend his feeble claims, regardless of the subject.

By the way, argument ad hominem only refers to a case in which i substitute personal remarks for an argument. I clearly lay out may case for your stupidity, for your idiocy and for your lies. Then i tell you that you are a . . .

Liar

Moron

. . . so, you see, that's not argumentum ad hominem . . . it's just icing on the cake.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:14 pm
But the nice thing about that question real life is that it reveals all your deception.

First you state that anything "unknown" to science is "supernatural".

You then turn around and pretend that science doesn't study the "supernatural".

You are being deceptive in first redefining a word one way. Then using the word in a different meaning you try to sucker people in. And if anyone agrees with the second meaning you will revert to the first meaning as if that was what you meant all along.
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:16 pm
parados wrote:
First you state that anything "unknown" to science is "supernatural".



Provide a quote.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:17 pm
real life wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:
Diest TKO wrote:
real life wrote:

read the context (something Set routinely ignores) and see what was actually being discussed.

Why would I bother doing that?


Um, because you wanted to know what was actually being discussed?

ok maybe you don't

my bad

You're running from your quotes, and you're just trying to get us to come with you.

T
K
O


Actually I was asking you to read my quotes --- in context.

It seems you are the only one who doesn't recognize what your words mean.

T
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:22 pm
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
First you state that anything "unknown" to science is "supernatural".



Provide a quote.

So you never said the BB was "supernatural" ? Rolling Eyes


I don't think anyone that reads this thread can not know what you have said real life. Are you in one of the stages of dementia to actually ask for a quote?
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:31 pm
But it looks like we are right back to where real life is willing to attempt to use the laws of thermodynamics while ignoring any other science to try to support his claim that the singularity must be supernatural.

Round and round his opinion goes and even he admits it is nothing more than opinion. It certainly isn't knowledge of science.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 04:58 pm
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
First you state that anything "unknown" to science is "supernatural".



Provide a quote.


Provide some proof. The only thing you've proved during this discussion is that you are a hypocrite, quite likely a liar, and most definitely a pathetic f@cking loser.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 05:15 pm
Wilso wrote:
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
First you state that anything "unknown" to science is "supernatural".



Provide a quote.


Provide some proof. The only thing you've proved during this discussion is that you are a hypocrite, quite likely a liar, and most definitely a pathetic f@cking loser.


Actually, RL has been quite successful... if you think that a filibuster will ever level a playing field.

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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jul, 2008 05:48 pm
Wilso wrote:
real life wrote:
parados wrote:
First you state that anything "unknown" to science is "supernatural".



Provide a quote.


Provide some proof. The only thing you've proved during this discussion is that you are a hypocrite, quite likely a liar, and most definitely a pathetic f@cking loser.
Another stunningly brilliant response.

Razor sharp logic.

Good job!
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