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Thu 9 Aug, 2007 08:41 pm
IDAHO Sheriff: more concealed gun permits would boost public safety
Published Wednesday, August 8th, 2007
The Associated Press
MOSCOW, Idaho (AP) - The sheriff of a north-central Idaho county where
a shooting rampage left four dead and three wounded last May wants
more people to obtain concealed weapons permits and carry guns,
including on the University of Idaho campus, to improve public safety.
"In my opinion, if there were more students with [concealed weapons permits],
the world would be safer," Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch told the
Lewiston Tribune on Tuesday.
"Just because we [law enforcement officers] are charged with protecting the public,
doesn't mean the public shouldn't be able to protect itself."
The university bans guns except under supervised circumstances at its firing range.
Except for law enforcement officials, the university requires that firearms
"be transported to the range unloaded, encased, with a trigger lock
attached or otherwise rendered inoperable."
Rausch's idea also contradicts Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney, who late
last month asked for a legal opinion from the state attorney general's
office on whether the city has the authority to ban both concealed and
exposed weapons in public areas such as city buildings.
Late on May 19, Jason Hamilton killed his wife at their Moscow home
before driving to the courthouse and firing some 200 gunshots into a
sheriff's dispatch center. There, he killed one law enforcement officer and
wounded two others, as well as wounding a man who armed himself and ran to help.
Hamilton then went to the nearby First Presbyterian Church, fatally
shooting a caretaker. Hamilton fired as many as 80 rounds inside the
church before taking his own life.
Tania Thompson, director of media relations at the university, told The Associated Press
on Wednesday that school officials declined to comment about Rausch's
push for more concealed weapons on campus.
Mayor Chaney did not immediately return a call from the AP.
Sgt. Brannon Jordan, who is still recovering from being shot by Hamilton
that night, said he agrees with Rausch when it comes to having more
concealed weapons, but added, "When I make contact with a person,
I like to be the only one with a gun."
Rausch said people who apply for concealed weapons permits are
screened, and are typically not a problem. He said some 540 people in
the county now carry concealed weapons.
One of them showed up at Monday's City council meeting and said he was carrying a handgun.
"When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away," David Klingenberg, 36,
told the meeting. "I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy."
Rausch is the only law enforcement officer in the county with the
authority to issue concealed weapons permits to individuals.
"Most of those are good citizens," he said.
Rausch said that if Moscow officials ban guns in public buildings and
parks, they will have to pay to enforce the ban.
"We don't have any system in the courthouse to back up the ban on guns," Rausch said.
"The bad guy is going to go right through the door."
He said a metal detector screens people entering the federal building in
Moscow, but that the county courthouse, City Hall and other public
buildings in the county have no such systems. [ emfasis added by David ]
Ahaa what the hell with it. Lets give it a shot.There would have to be some new laws put in place though.
When would it be legal for a citizen to draw and fire?
We can't have our schools turn into the OK coral.
Are they going to allow the professors at the University of Idaho to carry guns?
If a student has a dispute with a faculty member about a grade, where will the gun showdown be held?
Will it be held at "HighNoon"?
Yes let's arm everybody, then instead of being shot to death for asking for a quarter, this man could have drawn and shot her.
shot for a quarter
Joe(my two bits)Nation
That story sounds like the one, where a man bent down on a city street to pick up a coin that had fallen on a sewer lid. Just then, lightening struck and guess what happened?
It sounds like what?
Joe(Wha?)Nation
I think everyone should be armed.
Arms are useful.
squinney wrote:I think everyone should be armed.
Arms are useful.
Julius Caesar did not agree with u.
When his military forces defeated
the enemies of Rome, who had surrendered,
he used to say: " show me the arm that raised a sword against Rome "
and had the surrendered soldiers disarmed
by axes and by swords
( probably without the benefit of anesthesia )
I gotta believe that Caesar 's disarmament policy hurt.
Obviously Caesar found their arms offensive, not defensive.
I think concealed gun permits Should be earned after the passing completion of a 3 unit course.
And the curriculum would be??
1. Introdution to your firearm.
2. Saftey
3. Arguments for and against the second amendment
4. Pittfalls of vigilante justice & the preservation of law and order.
5. When and when it is not legal to draw and/or fire your firearm.
6. firing range training.
Joe Nation wrote:Yes let's arm everybody, then instead of being shot to death for asking for a quarter, this man could have drawn and shot her.
shot for a quarter
Joe(my two bits)Nation
" ... A homeless man who calls himself "Redcorn"
said
Francis used an aggressive style to ask for money.
"I know that's his style, all the way," Redcorn told News 5.
"
I mean, like pushing on people and doing this and doing that, man."
Redcorn said he holds a handwritten sign to bring in about $30 per day panhandling downtown,
and he's not surprised Francis was killed.
"If he's messing with a 62-year-old woman man then he deserved what he got," Redcorn said.
"
It all resolves itself down to
whether
she believed that she was the victim of violence;
whether she considered him to be a robber.
squinney wrote:Obviously Caesar found their arms offensive, not defensive.
Yes.
He found their arms offensive.