georgeob1 wrote:OGIONIK wrote:humans definitely need to shed a few billion people. We are the scourge of the planet, polluters of everything we touch.
this isnt an opinion, its a fact. We are probablly the worst thing that could have happened to this planet. There sjust too many and we concentrate ourselves into tiny, hideously polluted toxin infested area of land called cities, when we should at least diffuse our toxic nature a little bit.
But we dont follow logic, we dont even follow the laws of nature.
we are more like a cancerous tumor to this planet than anything else.
we do need to die, for the sake of what might be the only "life" in this entire universe. What happens when we start nuking the entire planet because of our greed and stupidity? what happens if we radiate the planet so much, and pollute it so much, that life begins to fail completely?
what if our dumbasses kill any chance of life ever leaving earth?
I say humans are simply too stupid to last long anyways, we will either use up all the resources or murder each other so dont worry, our extinction is on the way!
Given that we know (as well as science can know anything) that this planet will one day be consumed by our sun as it swells into its red giant phase, and that the likelihood of mass extinctions of all life on it due to asteroid impacts and/or volcanism well before that time is very great, your argument loses its foundation.
Indeed it is no argument at all - just a sappy assemblage of of the banalities of PC cant. However, sophomoric as it is, this line of thought has many advocates. I believe this explains much of the attractiveness of the AGW cult that infects so many people.
aCTUALLY, IT ONLY FURTHERS MY POINT. I said what if our stupidity eliminates the chance of life ever leaving this planet.
Why would i state it like that? because if life on our planet is the only life in the universe, and we kill ourselves off, we could effectivelly stop any chance of life propagating through the universe before the supernova which would then completely eliminate life from the universe (if you assume we are the only life in the universe, which we should, because we have no proof at all of other life anywhere else)
But its all good, i still think we are too idiotic to make it to interstellar space travel anyways. And then think, instead of war between countries we would have planetary wars! oh yay!
But seriously, look at the amount of garbage you create, then think there are 6 billion people doing the same thing.
Sometimes i think the earth naturally tries to get rid of us human viruses.
But if you believe humans are somehow clean and good for the environment your wrong, we are horrible, But it could also be the few bad apples among us making it worse for everyone, but i cant say humans are good without looking at how much bad we do, oh you could say art is a good thing, for the beauty of the statue of david even i must admit is breathtaking, but then when i see oil spills, nuclear bomb testing, garbage dumps, it makes me feel sad for this planet. imagine the ocean, a constant stream of toxic pollutants constantly coming in through runoff and through polluted rivers and streams. And all because us humans want to make our owns lives easier? FOr our "convenience" WE DESTROY OUR HOME?
Humans do not provide more than they take, we our ineffecient consumers. Lazy overfed whiny weak and really stupid. But i think robotics will enable us to overcome alot of the BS we have now, i mean soon we will have robots to complete all of our laborious chores, which will mean the intelligent people will be able to devote their lives to becoming smarter, the dedicated will be able to complete lifelong projects, and the lazy and weak minded will be able to sit around and eat all day while robots work fields to provide the world with food while solar power gives us free energy.
That is, unless we are too stupid to even accomplish that. Im sure there will be a time when they quit trying to put a meter on everything, until then we are doomed to these cycles of war AND GENERAL STUPIDITY.
wtf my cpas lock keys turns on when i hit enter, AWESOME!
we're the real tragedy. We didn't choose to come into existence.
Bet ya can't 