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Why we say "an" H.B. pencil, not "a"?

 
 
Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 04:30 am
We use "an" before vowels.
But why we say "an" H.B. pencil, not "a" H.B. pencil in English?
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 04:56 am
Because when speaking, the letter H is pronounced "aitch", which commences with a vowel sound. Other consonant letters whose pronunciations start with vowels are

F ('eff')
L ('ell')
M ('emm')
N ('enn')
R ('arr')
S ('ess')
X ('eks')

Conversely U is treated as if it starts with a consonant because it is pronounced 'yoo'.

an A
a B
a C
a D
an E
an F
a G
an H
an I
a J
a K
an L
an M
an N
an O
a P
a Q
an R
an S
a T
a U
a V
a W
an X
a Y
a Z
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 05:04 am
@lugia2001new,
See TYN's post. In English, we use "an" before vowel sounds. So we say A hard problem, because the "h" is pronounced; but we say AN honorarium because that "h" is not pronounced.
lugia2001new
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 05:17 am
many thanks!
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 05:21 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
we say AN honorarium because that "h" is not pronounced.

Likewise hour, heir. In British pronunciation historic, horrific, and hotel used to drop the initial 'h' but this is considered somewhat old-fashioned or affected nowadays (I myself drop those three 'h' sounds, and have always done so). In dialect speech e.g. Cockney, people will say e.g. 'An 'orrible way to die'.

Also the definite article 'the' is pronounced 'thee' before a vowel and 'thuh' before a consonant e.g. thee earth, thuh moon, thuh USA, thee FBI, thuh BBC, thuh KLF (a '90s pop group).




Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 05:27 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
I use "an" before history, historic, etc. I don't care if other people like it, and rather hope that they don't.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 12:21 pm
@Setanta,
In certain areas of New England they will have "A" herb garden

whereas here in PA we have "An" herb garden
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 12:23 pm
@farmerman,
There are also quite a few Brits who have the annoying habit of pronouncing the letter aitch, haitch.

If such a person is asking for an aitch bee pencil, then they would (supposedly) ask for a haitch bee.


Grrrrr.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 12:44 pm
@farmerman,
I never promised you a herb garden...
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 01:06 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
But I already have an erb garden.
Also, a weed garden.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 01:11 pm
@ossobuco,
This is all interesting to me, making me realize how tricky it is to learn english. By now I don't remember learning the rules for these differences, I just automatically say them the way you describe, sans thought re the wording.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 01:21 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
In certain areas of New England they will have "A" herb garden

whereas here in PA we have "An" herb garden

Here in Britain many people imagine that all North Americans say 'erb, usually rhotically, but this is not so, as you say. I heard someone from Baltimore say it almost in a Cockney fashion (i.e. silent R), but pronouncing the H.

farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 04:10 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
we pronounce the H and are always corrected by people who should be playing in their own gardens and should just leave me the hell alone
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I--chickens
 
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Reply Sun 7 Jun, 2015 06:05 pm
@lugia2001new,
Thing about it when we say an Hb we say aech b
This also occurs in hotel we say an oetel
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