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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 09:34 am
Can i say
For the last one year we have been here ?
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Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 09:41 am
@ghemalaksh,
No. That's an awkward construction.

A native-speaker of the language would say, "For the last year we have been here."
mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 10:17 am
@Ragman,
Or.
We have been here for a year. "The last" is unnecessary.
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 01:13 pm
@mark noble,
I humbly disagree. It is necessary for the sake of clarity.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 04:16 pm
@Ragman,
Why is "last" needed in this sentence? "....have been here" implies it's the current period.
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 05:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Because it was this last interval of 12 months not some otherprevious 12-month period that we were here.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 05:32 pm
@Ragman,
How can it be other than the current 12 month period?

Quote:
here
hir/
adverb
1.
in, at, or to this place or position.


Sounds like a present participle to me.
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 05:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Very easily. Here implies no timeframe.
For example:
"Custer's last stand was here."

There is no specific timeframe that implies it was now or even a recent event.

Furthermore, if the following statement were possible, "For the year 2012, we have been here", then stating last year would clarify the matter.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 05:46 pm
@Ragman,
It's the 'best' assumption, because it doesn't say otherwise.

Your example,
Quote:
"Custer's last stand was here."
is time and place specific.

Date and place: June 25, 1876, and place was Little Bighorn. That's the 'here.'
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 05:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Furthermore, if the following statement were possible, "For the year 2012, we have been here", then stating last year would clarify the matter.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 05:52 pm
@Ragman,
Shouldn't that read, "For the year 2012, we have been there......."
Ragman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 06:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I'll let others comment. I don't seem to be getting across so I'll be silent for a bit.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2014 06:27 pm
@Ragman,
It seems a simple matter of present and past tense.
Also, I'll admit I can be 'dense' some times. Mr. Green Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
mark noble
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2014 12:42 am
@cicerone imposter,
Let's add the question.
'How long have you been here?'
'We have been here a year' - We have been here 'for' a year - We have been here for 'the last' year'

A simpler response would be 'A year, One year'
An extreme response would be 'Without wishing to be overly enthusiastic about having to clarify my positional location within the commonly used calendrical temperal-zone - I would, all things, considerable, taken into consideration, announce, verbally, via my vocal ability, unto your, curious, self that we have been at or about this location, on a regular basis, for no longer or no less than one year.'
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2014 12:30 pm
@ghemalaksh,
Quote:
For the last one year we have been here.


Without knowing whether "we" have ever left "here" assumes a constant.
Otherwise, the reader assumes they left and came back. I don't see it that way.
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