Spirituality

@Miller,

I think it means to be concerned
with noumenal matters (backstage, behind the tangible universe),
as distinct from those of the "real" world, and acting accordingly.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I think it means to be concerned
with noumenal matters (backstage, behind the tangible universe),
as distinct from those of the "real" world, and acting accordingly.

And, what would 'acting accordingly entail?

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@Miller,

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

I think it means to be concerned
with noumenal matters (backstage, behind the tangible universe),
as distinct from those of the "real" world, and acting accordingly.

And, what would 'acting accordingly entail?

(I apologize for taking this long to respond.
I only just became aware of your last post.)

Being aware of the nature of ultimate reality
and employing the principles thereof.

If I remember accurately, we began to discuss the Kabbalah a few years ago.
Recent thinking links what might possibly be deemed "spiritual" considerations
to quantum mechanics, whose laws r radically different than Newtonian Physics.

David

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What attributes does a spiritual person possess, that one normally finds lacking in the nonspiritual individual?

Do you want to concentrate on physics or mysticism? How about

How about human behavior?

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@Miller,

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What attributes does a spiritual person possess,
that one normally finds lacking in the nonspiritual individual?

Less ignorance.

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Do you want to concentrate on physics or mysticism? How about

The latter.

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How about human behavior?

That figures into the process.

Have u continued your studies in the Kabbalah ?

David

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@Miller,

I think to be a spiritual person, you must be a person who goes beyond the everyday matters of the "real world", as so many people call it and investigate for yourself what the world is, "what its all about" as it were. people who are spiritual, are thoughtful, and they have an appreciation for the beauty of the world. a related question could be: what is the distinction between a philosophical person and a spiritual person?

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I think that a spiritual person is one who is aware of forces beyond what we, in our human form, can detect with the five senses or pure intellect alone. As such awareness takes many forms, some positive, some negative, I think it is much more difficult to assign absolute traits or characteristics to a 'spiritual' person as spirituality can manifest itself in both evil and positive ways.

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@existential potential,

existential potential wrote:

what is the distinction between a philosophical person and a spiritual person?

The manner in which an individual lives his/her life.

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It means to me that we are aware that we wrestle with principalities, which is territory of a prince. There is more to the world we see than the 5, 6 or 10 o'clock news. Believing that there is other realms, other spheres or kingdoms that function in other dimensions.

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@Miller,

I had thought that spirituality was simply being in touch with your own spirit (though I guess religion would have it 'the spirit')

From that perspective, all are spiritual to one degree or other, because it is necessary to life itself.

We see knowledge reflected in language when people say 'that's the spirit', or 'where's the team spirit', or any other use of the word in relation to people.

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@vikorr,

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I had thought that spirituality was simply being in touch with your own spirit
(though I guess religion would have it 'the spirit')

From that perspective, all are spiritual to one degree or other,
because it is necessary to life itself.

We see knowledge reflected in language when people say 'that's the spirit',
or 'where's the team spirit', or any other use of the word in relation to people.

U raise some interesting points, Vic.
For what it may be worth:
During recent decades, medical science has accomplished
great advances, not least among them: the defibrillator,
which has succeeded in restoral of competent cadiac functioning.

Some of the 1000s of people who have been brought back from
apparently lifeless conditions, with flat lines on EKG, EEG and
no respiration, have reported finding that thay observed, intuited,
that life is unitary (i.e., the same life , in all M.D.s, nurses,
the flowers in the room and the dog barking across the street)
and that the diversity of life is an illusion.

By way of analogy,
once in Las Vegas, in the ante-chamber of my bathroom
in the Tropicana Hotel, I saw 2 his and her sinks and water faucit
emplacements, facing opposite to one another.
Each had a mirror in front, with 2 side mirrors,
set at possibly 45 degree angles (forming an approximate hexagon)
6 mirrors total. I counted myself in 47 different places at once
from the reflections, but there was really only ONE of me.

( A lot of people on this forum believe that even THAT is too many.)

David

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@Miller,

A fundamental question, Miller. I agree that spirituality (the state of mind) refers to the deepest concern about our life. The nineteenth century philosopher, Neitzsche, was an atheist (he called himself an adiest, I believe), but he was also the most spiritual of individuals--he had a non-supernaturalist this-worldly religiousity.

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@Miller,

A fundamental question, Miller. I agree that spirituality (the state of mind) refers to the deepest concern about our life. The nineteenth century philosopher, Neitzsche, was an atheist (he called himself an adiest, I believe), but he was also the most spiritual of individuals--he had a non-supernaturalist this-worldly religiousity.

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@Miller,

A fundamental question, Miller. I agree that spirituality (the state of mind) refers to the deepest concern about our life. The nineteenth century philosopher, Neitzsche, was an atheist (he called himself an adiest, I believe), but he was also the most spiritual of individuals--he had a non-supernaturalist this-worldly religiousity.

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@Miller,

Responding to existential potential's question about the difference between a philosophical and a spiritual person, I don't see any reason for mutual exclusivity here, but philosophy has to do more (but not exclusively) with ideas and spirituality has more to do with feelings. This needs refinement of course.

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@JLNobody,

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I agree that spirituality (the state of mind) refers to
the deepest concern about our life.

U can prove this ?
or, at least show some evidence in support of your allegation ?

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The nineteenth century philosopher, Neitzsche, was an atheist
(he called himself an adiest, I believe),
but he was also the most spiritual of individuals--
he had a non-supernaturalist this-worldly religiousity.

Do u deem spirit to be " supernatural " ?

If u DO,
then is it oxymoronic to characterize a "a non-supernaturalist"
as being " the most spiritual of individuals " ?
By what reasoning can u reach that result ?

David

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What does it mean to be a spiritual person?

'Spiritual' cannot be mixed up with worldly matters,
therefore, a spiritual person means, NOT an Atheist or a Religionist,
but a true believer in 'God'.

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@Kenson,

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'Spiritual' cannot be mixed up with worldly matters,
therefore, a spiritual person means, NOT an Atheist or a Religionist,
but a true believer in 'God'.

Does it? What about buddhist monks etc?

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@Kenson,

What does it mean to be a spiritual person?

Kenson wrote:

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'Spiritual' cannot be mixed up with worldly matters

Can u prove that ?

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