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You and me baby, we ain't nothing but mammals....

 
 
Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 08:52 pm
Mo and I were watching "Pole to Pole" today on the Discovery channel (I so love "on demand") and I was trying to explain to him that in most of the animal kingdom that boys are the fancy ones and the girls are rather plain.

Later I started wondering why in the human animal kingdom that girls are fancy and boys are plain.

What gives?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 09:10 pm
Our current western boys are plainer than the norm:




http://www.nmnh.si.edu/naa/images/linker_new_guinea_4.jpg



http://www.prm.ox.ac.uk/images/SCAN_02.jpg


http://www.clarku.edu/~jborgatt/js_wahgi1.jpg



http://www.galenfrysinger.com/pacific/trobriand55.jpg



http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/pod/pictures/sm_wallpaper/06513_319.jpg



http://www.cwu.edu/~robinsos/ppages/resources/Costume_History/images/1580hofherr1_small.jpg


http://www.georgianindex.net/Prinny/bond_beaus.jpg



http://www.nndb.com/people/670/000095385/beau-brummell-1-sized.jpg


http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/images/collection_large/400822.jpg


http://www.costumes.org/history/kohler/378.jpg


http://www.adireafricantextiles.com/imagesres/goldcoast7.jpg



http://www.adireafricantextiles.com/imagesres/shendam.jpg


http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/photos/dsc08355.800.jpg


http://www.costumes.org/history/17thcent/mensfashionplates/courtierfulldresswinter1677.jpg


http://www.deephawaii.com/Australia/webpic/a-sydney-4.jpg


http://graphics.worldweb.com/PhotoImages/TrevorMillions/Native%20Dance.jpg

http://www.civilization.ca/tresors/ethno/elem/img/et0511b.jpg

http://www.nigeria-planet.com/image-files/aso-oke.jpg



This is an historical aberration....
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 09:12 pm
Who decided on most of the fashion trappings , crazy shoes, and face chemicals? Some gay guy . The rest of us are on the couch scratchin.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 09:18 pm
Maybe it has something to do with the array of human emotion (we love) and/or the fact that we do not have a rutting season.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 09:45 pm
littlek wrote:
fact that we do not have a rutting season.


trying to picture a human rutting season..

>snort<
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 09:48 pm
dlowan wrote:
Our current western boys are plainer than the norm:




http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/pod/pictures/sm_wallpaper/06513_319.jpg

....


I find this decoration to be incredibly sexy and I wonder why 'civilized' nations stopped decorating their bodies and started slathering themselves with perfumes and colognes instead..
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dadpad
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2007 09:58 pm
I've wondered about this also.

I wondered if it had something to do with lifestyle satisfaction, or if monogamous relationships have something to do with it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 02:23 am
I would just like to say
That it is my opinion
That longer hair
And other flamboyant affectations
Of appearance are nothing more
Than the man's emergence
From his drab camouflage
Into the gaudy plumage that is
The birthright of his sex!

There is a peculiar notion
That elegant plumage
And fine feathers
Are not proper for the male.

When Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac
tually
That is the way things are
In most species.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 05:15 am
littlek wrote:
Maybe it has something to do with the array of human emotion (we love) and/or the fact that we do not have a rutting season.



I need to inform Bear about this.

It used to be guys got tattoos (for the most part) but now gals get them too. Even so, I get the feeling tattoos are more about self expression than attracting a mate.

Maybe the need for human plummage dropped off as we evolved into higher thinking beings and began to deal with equality. Or, maybe the fella's got tired of being told "Take that silly thing off before you sit down at the table."
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 08:00 am
A lot of the early plumage and rituals have to do with hunting (however indirectly). Men display their bone jewelry and armor, their pelts (look at the animals I've caught!). They get rite-related tattoos. Later on, big bellies and silk stockings showed that you had money enough to eat well and dress in the finest.

Now, even before women's rights, men had become 'drabber'. We don't hunt, we survive in the workplace. For a long time the middle class ruled - many dressed in the same fashions (maybe that is part of it, the herd mentality). Men and women became more equal. Women hunted as much as men (in the workplace). <shrug>

Anyway, can we consider BMWs, SCUBA gear, Motorcycles, Expensive watches, etc plumage? Maybe men are just more subtle and/or external in their plumage?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 08:09 am
Quote:
Anyway, can we consider BMWs, SCUBA gear, Motorcycles, Expensive watches, etc plumage? Maybe men are just more subtle and/or external in their plumage?


And that might explain "trophy" wives!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 08:17 am
littlek wrote:
A lot of the early plumage and rituals have to do with hunting (however indirectly). Men display their bone jewelry and armor, their pelts (look at the animals I've caught!). They get rite-related tattoos. Later on, big bellies and silk stockings showed that you had money enough to eat well and dress in the finest.

Now, even before women's rights, men had become 'drabber'. We don't hunt, we survive in the workplace. For a long time the middle class ruled - many dressed in the same fashions (maybe that is part of it, the herd mentality). Men and women became more equal. Women hunted as much as men (in the workplace). <shrug>

Anyway, can we consider BMWs, SCUBA gear, Motorcycles, Expensive watches, etc plumage? Maybe men are just more subtle and/or external in their plumage?


Heh heh...or the clothing thing has, in fact, stymied them.



We have damned large dongs, for a primate, and our nakedness with weird hairy bits makes them stand out a lot when the male is in his natural state.


See 'em right across the savannah, you could, apparently.


heh heh.....
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 08:32 am
dlowan - ties right in the the adage that fancy cars are compensation.
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malek
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 09:06 am
I think it's mainly to do with prevailing fashions. Western men have dressed up/down through the ages and maybe we're just going thru a down phase.
The last dressing up phase was the new romantics during the 80's (flock of seagulls?), preceeded by Travolta lookalikes in the 70's.

Fashion the way it is at the moment, if any male went out dressed like that nowadays, spangly shirts, medallions, coiffured hair, they would probably cause the girls to run a mile.
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 09:55 am
I'm content with my 1870's "Wild Bill Hickok" look...it suits me quite well.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 02:03 pm
Perhaps the Popinjay Parade evolved to compensate for poor male verbal skills?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 02:07 pm
Thanks for the mammaries . . .
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 02:16 pm
Question on the table (or floor): Does word play indicate verbal facility or simply a smoke screen for being Unable To Discuss FEELINGS?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 02:18 pm
I think wordplay and expressions of feelings can coexist. Sometimes one, sometimes the other, depending on context. (Speaking for myself, I adore wordplay but can emote with the best of 'em. :-D)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 02:20 pm
This thread is so gay . . .
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