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Thu 8 Mar, 2007 02:47 pm
The Conservative homeland security spokesman, Patrick Mercer, today stepped down after saying that being called a "black bastard" was part-and-parcel of life in the armed forces.
The party leader, David Cameron, said the remarks by the MP for Newark and Retford were "totally unacceptable".
Mr Mercer becomes the first frontbench resignation of Mr Cameron's 15-month reign as leader. In an interview with Times Online he said it was "the way it is" a black soldier would be called a "black bastard", and that some "idle and useless" ethnic minority soldiers "used racism as cover for their misdemeanours".
Quote:"I came across a lot of ethnic minority soldiers who were idle and useless, but who used racism as cover for their misdemeanours. I remember one guy from St Anne's (Nottingham) who was constantly absent and who had a lot of girlfriends. When he came back one day I asked him why, and he would say: 'I was racially abused'. And we'd say: 'No you weren't, you were off with your girlfriends again'."
"I had five company sergeant majors who were all black. They were without exception UK-born, Nottingham-born men who were English - as English as you and me... They prospered inside my regiment, but if you'd said to them: 'Have you ever been called a nigger?' they would have said: 'Yes'. But equally, a chap with red hair, for example, would also get a hard time - a far harder time than a black man, in fact. But that's the way it is in the Army. If someone is slow on the assault course, you'd get people shouting: 'Come on you fat bastard, come on you ginger bastard, come on you black bastard'."
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Times online
Quote: Now outgoing shadow homeland security minister Patrick Mercer has issued the following statement after he had appeared to downplay the significance of racist abuse in the armed forces and had said that some ethnic minority soldiers used the excuse of racism as cover for their inadequacies:
"The offence I have obviously caused is deeply regretted. I had the privilege to command soldiers from across the East Midlands of whom many came from racial minorities. It was a matter of great pride to me that racial minorities prospered inside the unit, and, indeed at one stage all of my Company Sergeant Majors were black. What I have said is clearly misjudged and I can only apologise if I have embarrassed in anyway those fine men whom I commanded. I have no hesitation in resigning my front-bench appointment."
David Cameron said the following:
"The comments made by Patrick Mercer are completely unacceptable and I regret that they were made. We should not tolerate racism in the Army or in any walk of life. Patrick Mercer is no longer a Shadow Minister."
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What about the fats and the gingers!!
I'm usually on the other side of the argument, but this time, to be honest, I dont understand what the scandal is.
The remark about idle soldiers using "racism" as an excuse is a stupid remark for a public figure, for sure. I mean, I'm sure it happens incidentally, but it's surely not the norm in any way, so to imply it is in any fashion is dumb.
But - as the Evening Standard headline shows - thats not the remark he appears to be being hung on. Its the "black bastards" thing.
But that makes no sense. All he said is that black people in the army are called n!ggers, are called "black bastards". OK, if thats true then that should be investigated, and Something Should Change. Then its good that we find out in the first place, right? So why punish the messenger?
I mean, if what he said was, look it, this is how it goes in reality, then isnt throwing him out over that just that - shooting the messenger? The end result, it seems to me, is then actually only going to be counterproductive, in the sense that next time, we wont even hear about **** like this going on, cause noone will be daring to talk about it. What good is that?
I dunno.
Really agree with nimh.
He was saying it does happen.
It does.
And, stupid statement.
"It is not hard to imagine David Cameron's fury when he heard of the comments made about black soldiers by his frontbencher Patrick Mercer. The Tory leader has spent the past year or more devoting all his energies to casting off all the old negatives which used to attach themselves to his party. Then, with a highly controversial set of remarks, Mr Mercer risked blowing it all apart"
Well, that argument seems to be all about party political strategy, and little about what Mercer said being inherently wrong.
Like the article says:
Quote:He clearly believed, as friends have said, that he was simply describing the world - specifically the military world of which he has personal experience - the way it is.
But, whatever the arguments for and against his comments, they displayed a large degree of political misjudgement. [..]
One possible positive from all this is that the issue of racism in the military is again back on the agenda with top brass insisting it will not be tolerated.
But, for Mr Mercer, his remarks have brought to a premature end what many believed had the makings of a successful frontbench, even ministerial, career.
In short: he's been shot down because he was the messenger of unpleasant news.
This is a bit like the guy who said niggardly. He never did get his job back, I don't think.