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Freedom of Speech - French Style

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 07:17 am
This should be a litmus test for all liberal "ban everything" types.


http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/06/franceban/index.php

France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence
By Peter Sayer, IDG News Service

The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil liberties group warned on Tuesday.

The council chose an unfortunate anniversary to publish its decision approving the law, which came exactly 16 years after Los Angeles police officers beating Rodney King were filmed by amateur videographer George Holliday on the night of March 3, 1991. The officers' acquittal at the end on April 29, 1992 sparked riots in Los Angeles.

If Holliday were to film a similar scene of violence in France today, he could end up in prison as a result of the new law, said Pascal Cohet, a spokesman for French online civil liberties group Odebi. And anyone publishing such images could face up to five years in prison and a fine of €75,000 (US$98,537), potentially a harsher sentence than that for committing the violent act.

Senators and members of the National Assembly had asked the council to rule on the constitutionality of six articles of the Law relating to the prevention of delinquency. The articles dealt with information sharing by social workers, and reduced sentences for minors. The council recommended one minor change, to reconcile conflicting amendments voted in parliament. The law, proposed by Minister of the Interior Nicolas Sarkozy, is intended to clamp down on a wide range of public order offenses. During parliamentary debate of the law, government representatives said the offense of filming or distributing films of acts of violence targets the practice of "happy slapping," in which a violent attack is filmed by an accomplice, typically with a camera phone, for the amusement of the attacker's friends.

The broad drafting of the law so as to criminalize the activities of citizen journalists unrelated to the perpetrators of violent acts is no accident, but rather a deliberate decision by the authorities, said Cohet. He is concerned that the law, and others still being debated, will lead to the creation of a parallel judicial system controlling the publication of information on the Internet.

The government has also proposed a certification system for Web sites, blog hosters, mobile-phone operators and Internet service providers, identifying them as government-approved sources of information if they adhere to certain rules. The journalists' organization Reporters Without Borders, which campaigns for a free press, has warned that such a system could lead to excessive self censorship as organizations worried about losing their certification suppress certain stories.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 07:44 am
Where are all the gun and knife haters? You'd think they'd be in here pressing for a ban on video cameras.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 09:33 am
They're chasing me all over the bang bang threads yet not a peep here.

What a crock of ****.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 10:51 am
So you're a supporter of "happy slapping" as well.

I should have known that.

cjhsa wrote:
This should be a litmus test for all liberal "ban everything" types.


You just post any rubbish, don't you Laughing

But honestly, I'm rather glad that you oppose these laws by the rightish Sarkozy and prefer to join the Socialistic and left French opposition on this subject!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 11:08 am
Quote:
Source
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 11:22 am
The fact that you continue to prove my points while thinking you are effectively countering is noted and appreciated.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 11:27 am
So you really are a liberal, socialistic leftie? Shocked
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 01:00 pm
First Step
Confiscate your guns and treat you like a criminal

Second Step
Tell them that they cannot report violence

Third Step
Hold them in a cell and never let them go.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 02:12 pm
Well, Maître en Droit cjhsa, I'm again overwhelmed by your legal knowledge, here even about French law.

I'd some difficulties in translating the LOI n° 2007- 301 du 5 mars 2007 to get to the same results as you did.. Did you use an English translation or do it by yourself?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2007 06:55 pm
Stop violating the TOS Walt and pay attention.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 12:14 am
cjhsa wrote:
Stop violating the TOS Walt and pay attention.


Would you kindly verify me where I did so?


Since this a quite a sincere accusation, I'll ask the moderators to look at it.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:13 am
Please.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:16 am
So where did I violate what? What thread and when?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:20 am
Figure it out yourself.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:24 am
I'm not such a brainiac as you are - and in the report formuly I must to mention the correct thread/reponse.

So, name it.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:24 am
Already reported.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:31 am
I appreciate how you take care of getting this site free from pansies and hippies suck, socialists, foreigners, etc etc etc

You're truly an impressive image of a patriotic American.

Thanks.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:34 am
Please note the tactics here. The substance of the article is completely ignored, along with its implications. The poster is attacked, and the thread is spammed so that the useful information is buried pages deep.

Who else is sick of it?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:37 am
cjhsa wrote:
Please note the tactics here. The substance of the article is completely ignored, along with its implications. The poster is attacked, and the thread is spammed so that the useful information is buried pages deep.

Who else is sick of it?


You obviously overread that I even gave the (nearly) complete titel of that law and ask you questions about it Laughing

Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'd some difficulties in translating the LOI n° 2007- 301 du 5 mars 2007 to get to the same results as you did.. Did you use an English translation or do it by yourself?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 07:42 am
Apparently according to the A2K TOS I am not allowed to respond in kind to the heckler.
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