THE BRITISH THREAD II

So, how do the bookies have the independence vote?

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Le bermp trois.

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@InfraBlue,

William Hill (5.20pm)

1/5 No

7/2 Yes

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@InfraBlue,

Yes 9/2 No 1/5.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome

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Sitting in a darkened room and mumbling quietly to myself

"Keir Hardie, Jimmy Maxton, Jimmy Reid, John Smith, Robin Cook, Donald Dewar, Gordon Brown, Alastair Darling...."

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@McTag,

Don't forget Stanley Baxter.

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Rail Minister Claire Perry is against devo-max

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With polls narrowing and campaigns ever more acrimonious, it really is too close to call although my sense is that there will be a narrow ‘No’ victory, and that creates two problems.

The first is that if the result is a narrow ‘No’, this will be a running sore in politics for years to come with demands from Holyrood every few years for another go at the question.

The second is that there will be a whole raft of goodies on offer for Scotland that will be paid for by us south of the border to try and appease the ‘Yes’ voters.

The funding formula for Scotland, the rather cobbled together Barnett formula, already delivers per capita funding north of the border well in excess of that spent per head in the other parts of the union, and if there is a proposal to allow devolution of local taxation, as well maintaining the current level of funding as a dollop from the UK parliament, then that can hardly be equitable for those of us in the Devizes constituency and all other areas in the non-Scottish union.

Cool, calm analysis, not promises of financial party bags to appease Mr Salmond, are what is needed from tomorrow and onwards, but either way I am expecting Parliament to be recalled next week to understand the result and any proposed settlement.

Source: today's (Wiltshire) Gazette & Herald

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There is no exit poll, isn't it? So it really won't be before tomorrow morning until we'll get the results?

But what will moderators and guests talk about until then if they can't discuss why Catholic 16 years old girls in Glasgow voted that way opposite to middle class Presbyterian housewives on Skye?

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@Walter Hinteler,

They usually leap about having the journalists equivalent of a live on air orgasm as large and small results start coming in from around the country.
Jeremy Vine will be there trying to put some physical animation into the whole proceedings, courtesy of a giant virtual diaplay, and several little known hacks and ex politiciams will be discussing the ramifications of Lower Angus on Tweed voting yes.

The excitement they whip up is almost unbearable.

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@Lordyaswas,

Lordyaswas wrote:

ehBeth wrote:

And Quebec is part of Canada.

I do not think people have a right to vote in a country they have left. I understand that others disagree. My opinion is, you leave = you lose your right to vote.

But this IS different, ebeth. The Scots who live in England haven't left their country, as they are still in Britain.

it is NOT different. People who moved to Ontario/British Columbia etc from Quebec were still in Canada. They did not vote in Quebec's referenda on independence (with some exceptions - the military in particular).

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Yep, time to conceed.

Totally unfair, imo, but there y'go.

Latest...

No wins 54-46. (YouGov guy, 99% certain)

Watching Newsnight, it certainly looks like there's going to be some, how can I put it, strong feelings coming from the Yes people, should they lose.

Interesting days ahead, I fear.

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@Lordyaswas,

In any case, single malt Scotch futures have gone through the roof.

Our Maryland likker stores have been selling "froig at premiums of 25% and up.

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@farmerman,

I have about thirty bottles of various single malt in the cupboard, having been given them when my neighbour moved. Her husband had given up the hootch on Docs orders, and he was a bit of a collector of fine malts.
Six or so had been opened, and I would imagine that over the last three years I've maybe got through a bottle or two, and opened another half a dozen when friends are round, just to taste.
At this rate, they should last me until I peg it, and then my son can put the unopened ones on McEbay.

Lagavulin is my favourite, so far. And Johnnie Walker whisky liquer.(but I secretly prefer real ale)

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@farmerman,

I like both Laphroig and Macallen, however you spell it. That's for the rich.
Oh, and Lagavulin, back when my husband's prof, also my friend, collected all that.

He had a kind of tasting bar. Nothing horrible - he's the man that taught both of us about food, both of us receptive, we drove, he paid, back in early days. He had both good taste buds and brains.

My ex had cooked at home in self defense.
I felt that way too, part of my interest in food, and I was a beginning cook, trying to figure stuff out.

My ex's mother serve jello with mustard. Maybe she was right, but it didn't go over well. She was a recipe collector, which I relate to. That was also beginning Alzheimers or equivalent.

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A key memory of my five hours at Heathrow was that over time we both looked around. I went to the bar and asked for a single malt scotch/ice side (I'm aware that is wrong for experts), and there weren't any single malts. Only Johnny Walker. That was in 1988. I suppose that was a clue to this division stuff.
Why didn't the Heathrow bar have good scotch?

Also I sneezed a lot, why I was so miserable. There is stuff in planes and airports that get me going. Or was - maybe some of the chemicals have changed.

I also remember clothing sold up my nose. We were flying spare.
I'm moderately sophisticated re clothing design but not wealthy. I wonder how all that projects. I figure that people who follow the fashion world closely don't buy at airports.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

I went to the bar and asked for a single malt scotch/ice side (I'm aware that is wrong for experts), and there weren't any single malts. Only Johnny Walker. That was in 1988. I suppose that was a clue to this division stuff.
Why didn't the Heathrow bar have good scotch?

My understanding (which in the realm of alcoholic drinks is admittedly pretty limited) is that a blended scotch is not necessarily cheap.

Cheap scotch is always blended because the blending can adequately mask the defects. Single malt on the other hand has to be of a certain quality because there is no way to mask defects if it has any.

However, if you are blending only high quality scotch to begin with, you can produce a very good blended scotch with a complex flavor.

Johnny Walker is supposed to produce both sorts of blended scotch. You can tell the grade of their scotch by the color of the label.

I've never tried blended scotch (I seldom drink, and seldom drink much when I do drink), but trying out a bottle of "good" blended scotch is on my bucket list.

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@oralloy,

I understand, but the best whisky-whiskey, whatever spelling, in the world is from scotland and I've occasionally tasted it - when I did, from a professor of my husband/friend of mine. Personally not able to afford it. I was surprised none of that was available at Heathrow/ several hour wait). But they had Johnny Walker? Maybe the place has changed, that was in '88.

But - - what was that about, no MacCallan?
Ne'er mind my spelling, I was amazed at only american scotch at the international bar.

Even back then I had sniff of what I took of as hostility re scots single malts,.

I don't routinely drink at airports, but I'm guessing US airports have a wider selection. That was odd,

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The BBC forecasts that Scotland has voted against becoming an independent country by a projected 55% to 45%.

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

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