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THE BRITISH THREAD II

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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 12:18 pm
@izzythepush,
All of England's oppressed Celtic neighbors were in the habit of teaming up with whatever European country happened at the moment to be a threat to the British. The Scots most frequently with the French: the Irish were more sorely oppressed and would take their friends wherever they could find them.

On a larger scale this same tactic was a key instrument in the preservation of the British Empire (their alternating aliances with the Russians or the Ottomans for example), so you have no basis for this criticism without indulging in some rather serious hypocrisy
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 12:20 pm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 12:21 pm
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 12:21 pm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 12:28 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
The Scots most frequently with the French:
'The Auld Alliance': actually that's the reason why you found/find "Ecosse" on many Scottish registered cars as nationality sign. (In English it would be "Albany" or the Gaelic "Alba" by the way.)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 12:48 pm
In this moment, there's a really interesting tennis match in Paris: I wonder, if the Scottish player will loose it or the English win ... against Kohlschreiber from Germany (5th set) Wink
McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:08 pm
@izzythepush,

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you're the one who decided to sink to Romeo's level, calling us all incompetent, and saying everyone hates the English.


You're not displaying that famous English sense of humour. I get so much crap from Romeo, I had to give him both barrels. Anyhoo I modified that remark later, about everyone hating the English.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:13 pm
@Walter Hinteler,

It's a funny thing about the "Auld Alliance": it's quite well known about in Scotland, and in France they've never heard of it. The Jacobites were catholic, much of Scotland at the time adhered to the "old religion", and so the alliance with our nearest catholic neighbour was a cert.
BTW has anyone else read "An Instance of the Fingerpost"? It's good.
McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:15 pm
@Walter Hinteler,

We'll lose to a German*, so it must be a Scottish player.


*they try too hard.
contrex
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:20 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:
the "Auld Alliance": it's quite well known about in Scotland, and in France they've never heard of it.

Pas complétement Inconnue, mais plus connue en Ecosse qu’en France, la Vieille Alliance a uni les deux royaumes pendant près de trois siècles. Elle s’est distendue quand l’Ecosse décida de partager son trône avec l’Angleterre.

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Fondée le 23 janvier 1996 à Orléans, l’Alliance France-Ecosse, a pour but de poursuivre l’oeuvre de l’Auld Alliance (traité de coopération entre la France et l’Ecosse, signé à Paris le 23 octobre 1295) par le développement et la promotion de rapports amicaux et économiques entre nos deux nations. Nous sommes une association loi 1901, sans affiliation politique ou religieuse et entièrement financée par nos fonds propres.

http://www.alliance-france-ecosse.com/home.php?num_niv_1=1&num_niv_2=1

http://www.alliance-france-ecosse.com/mediatheque/jeanne_d_arc.jpg
McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:23 pm
@contrex,

Thankee C. I didn't know it was that old.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:40 pm
@McTag,
Which gives me the chance to post some music from 2012, played by pipes and drums and the "town band" from my native town (on the occasion of the 600th anniversary of the town's marksmen club (St. Sebastianus Schützenbruderschaft von 1412 - the Saint Sebastian Marksmen Confraternity of 1412)

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:42 pm
@McTag,
The match is suspended (7:7 in 5th set), too dark by now.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:45 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Thankee C. I didn't know it was that old.


To be accurate, the Auld Alliance lasted from 1295 to 1560, officially, but In 2011, British historian Dr Siobhan Talbott claimed the Auld Alliance was never actually revoked after all.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:55 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
... and has only been part of the UK for 314.
And were reigned at first by George Louis, Archbannerbearer of the Holy Roman Empire and Prince-Elector, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 02:21 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Okay: he was King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, too.
McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 03:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,

There's been a good TV series here recently about the Hanovarian British monarchs.
We should have had Sophia, was it, but she died suddenly, so we got George I
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jun, 2014 03:28 pm
@McTag,

Hey does anyone get The Times and have you seen what Giles Coren wrote about obesity and nutrition in the USA? He's a restaurant critic and the restaurants were highly regarded, paradoxically, but he was very scathing, and very droll, about the national diet. Shame I can't link it here, its subscription only now.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jun, 2014 05:18 pm
@McTag,
Try to get it. We love to read the work of British critics regarding our cuisine!!

Our current emperor's wife has been haranguing us for some time about our bad eating habits, and has reacted rather badly to widespread suggestions that she piss off.
 

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