THE BRITISH THREAD II

@McTag,

McTag wrote:

No speakee, no visee.

Aren't you a bit late for that BNP rally you were booked to speak at?

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@contrex,

No. I gave up on newspapers years ago.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

and they only talk in Castillian when chatting with English friends?

¡Si, claro!

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@contrex,

It certainly is a matter for debate.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

It certainly is a matter for debate.

And not already decided, or worse, regarded as "the way things are".

How we want our society to be, and who decides what "society" is in the first place, are political questions, as I have increasingly realised, which is why I have rejoined the Labour Party and will be working with them to get the coalition out in 2015.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'm sure that no UK-citizen visits a foreign country without working knowledge of their language ... and they only talk in Castillian when chatting with English friends?

And they call it Castellano, especially when they are in Catalunya.

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@contrex,

Al cázar!

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@contrex,

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Aren't you a bit late for that BNP rally you were booked to speak at?

I don't think that's fair. Asylum is one thing, economic migrants quite another.
And now we've got British jihadis fighting in Syria, and coming back home, who's to say Enoch Powell wasn't right? Why should we knowingly import problems? A sizeable number of Britons now have Urdu as a first language. Is that good for the future of society? I suggest that it is not.
Remembering Condoleeza Rice saying something like "We've got to fight them in Afghanistan, so that we don't have to fight them over here." Oh really, Condi. I think it's a bit late.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

I don't think that's fair. Asylum is one thing, economic migrants quite another.

I'm not sure, if you really can call those Polish employees at 'Hobbycraft' economic migrants.
But even if they are, I still think it a bit unusual that an employer orders his employees not to speak in their mother tongue ... nota bene: to others of the same nationality.

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McTag said: ..who's to say Enoch Powell wasn't right?..

Hey maybe his 'Rivers of Blood' speech also hinted at the prospect of 'Muslim patrols' policing the streets of Brit cities and killing gays, prostitutes, jews, junkies, drunks, atheists and anybody else they don't like.. Smile

At least they'll soon clean up our cities for us, so let's applaud the Labour governments and their voters for approving massive immigration over the years.. Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/MuslimPatrolsLondon_zps1189c9aa.jpg~original

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

McTag wrote:
I don't think that's fair. Asylum is one thing, economic migrants quite another.

I'm not sure, if you really can call those Polish employees at 'Hobbycraft' economic migrants.

Well,certainly you can - but legally they aren't: citizens of the European Economic Area (the European Union plus Iceland, Liechtenstein, and Norway) and Switzerland have the freedom to travel and work in any European Union country.

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@Walter Hinteler,

I think I'm out of my depth here. I certainly don't support the aims of the BNP.
Look, no-one is against Polish ex-servicemen's clubs, Ukrainian folk-dance societies, Welsh male voice choirs or Scottish Burns' night or Caledonian societies, but everyone who wants to live here should espouse our values and wish to be genuine citizens.
A first stage of that, in my opinion, is a willingness to get a working knowledge of the language. Ideally before they arrive here.

And yes Walter, I think Brits going to live in Spain should behave in the same way. Maybe I'm an ideallist.
p.s. What do you think of multi-lingual information signs put up in hospitals and town halls? No French or German, note. Urdu, Hindi, Tamil, Arabic.....

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

A first stage of that, in my opinion, is a willingness to get a working knowledge of the language. Ideally before they arrive here.

No problem with that at all ... and as it seems: these Polish employees had a working knowledge of English. But they are ordered by their employer to talk in English to other Polish employees as well.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

p.s. What do you think of multi-lingual information signs put up in hospitals and town halls? No French or German, note. Urdu, Hindi, Tamil, Arabic.....

Depends on the language, patients/customers are speaking, isn't it?

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@Walter Hinteler,

In Welsh pubs and shops, they will all speak in Welsh if there is an English person in earshot.
Just so they clearly understand that they're not liked.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

In Welsh pubs and shops, they will all speak in Welsh if there is an English person in earshot.
Just so they clearly understand that they're not liked.

When I was over in Britain before Christmas, I got a train to Swansea and then a little kind of mini bus thing to a place on the Gower Peninsula. Before the bus had gone 5 miles I had the life stories of everybody on that bus, and had seen pictures of their children. When I said I used to live in Bristol, one old fellow said "Lovely town! I made lots of friends there just after the war."

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@McTag,

I once broke down in Wales Mac. I had a phrase book with me and walking into a village I had learned how to say--"Could you please tell me where the nearest telephone box is", in fluent Welsh.

I approached a chap sitting in the sun outside the Temperance Hut with a glass of orangeade in his hand and asked him.

He said "**** off you Welsh git" in broad Brummy.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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Romeo Fabulini wrote:

(image of a page from the Daily Star (a bottom-level muckraking tabloid))

That bloke in the picture has been given an ASBO, and many muslims in the area including the Imam of the main mosque, have disowned him. Some gave evidence against him in court and said what he was doing was un-Islamic.

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@spendius,

Oh ha ha.

We know a couple from Northern Ireland, who have bought and improved a cottage near Betsy Coed.
The natives there were very standoffish, until they later learned our friends were not English.
Then they became very friendly.

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@contrex,

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a place on the Gower Peninsula

Mid and north Walians are different. They still resent what happened with Owain Glyndwr.

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