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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
vonny
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 09:20 am
@spendius,
Quote:
It's a rugby town. Most of them think football is for pansies.

Newcastle is supposed to be a football town, but I never met anybody who played the game when I lived there! The dances and clubs of my early teenage years were the Cricket Club and Rugby Club - not even aware of there being a Football Club!
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 03:04 pm
@spendius,
Did you see the little lad crying when his team was one down and only ten minutes to go. It brought a lump to my throat.

I remember when my team lost in the Cup Final I was just about his age. I know how he felt. Not that I cried but stiff upper lips are not as stiff now as they were in those days. They are advised and encouraged today to let their emotions express themselves fully and to not bottle them up just so they can look heroic and able to take it on the chin.

The Iron Lady sobbed when she couldn't be Big Nanny anymore.

But it was a great piece of TV. The little lad was inconsolable. And no wonder. Losing the chance of seeing all the top players coming to Brighton is no small loss.

But he was keeping it to himself. He was just gently weeping. And he wasn't hiding his eyes like a bloody 40 year old was shown doing.

Maybe our gentrification peaked during Labour's period in office.
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vonny
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 03:05 pm
bump
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vonny
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 03:06 pm
bumps
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 03:14 pm
@vonny,
Quote:

The dances and clubs of my early teenage years were the Cricket Club and Rugby Club - not even aware of there being a Football Club!


Gosforth, I'll be bound. Posh area.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 03:17 pm
@vonny,
Quote:
Newcastle is supposed to be a football town, but I never met anybody who played the game when I lived there! The dances and clubs of my early teenage years were the Cricket Club and Rugby Club - not even aware of there being a Football Club!


That must mean you come from the right side of the tracks vonny. The one to windward. In fact "not even aware" suggests the safest Tory ward on the council.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 01:13 am
@McTag,
Jesmond is fairly posh too. I met someone from there who voted Tory.
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vonny
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:52 am
Strange hearing people refer to Jesmond and Gosforth on A2K! Yes, the rugby and cricket clubs were in Gosforth, and yes, Jesmond is part of my 'patch', but I went to school in Fenham. Anyway, large chunks of Jesmond and Gosforth are occupied by university students nowadays - like a lot of London, the larger houses have been split up into apartments - so no right or wrong side of the tracks anymore - thank goodness!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:13 pm
Bye, bye Wigan ...
vonny
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:20 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm sorry. I haven't seen any football news today. So sad when that happens. But they might do what Newcastle did a couple of seasons ago, and get back into the Premiership in a year's time.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:21 pm
@vonny,
Still 12 minutes to go, but the Gunners lead 4:1
vonny
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:40 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
We play them next ... thank goodness we're through. By the skin of our teeth perhaps - but it's a big relief. Hard when you get beaten by such a large number of goals - Liverpool slaughtered Newcastle recently. Not nice to watch when it's your team!
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 03:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I would never say a thing like that Walt. 20 teams in the Premiership is only a cut off point for logistical reasons in the grading of our football clubs. Wigan have not gone anywhere except lower down the rankings.

One might say, as the game is radically professionalised, that the football authorities, like the racing authorities, have created a beautiful scheme for taking money off a range of people, not least wealthy gentlemen who need another reason to have a lot of attention paid to them, with some shamanistic wizardry concerning a bunch of hairy arsed blokes chasing a ball around a field or are investing in the hope of rich dividends like in poker.

But Wigan is owned by a bloke who broke his leg playing in a cup-final at Wembley, received £400 in compensation for never playing in the top flight again, invested it wisely and became a rich man.

He's a proper, old-fashioned English football club chairman and his getting Wigan into the Premiership and keeping them there as long as he has is a great achievement. As is them winning the FA Cup.

A good number of the chairmen of clubs who have stayed up are of unknown provenance.

McTag
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 03:15 pm
@spendius,

Well said, Spendy.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 16 May, 2013 09:10 am

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Former England captain David Beckham is to retire from football at the end of the season, at the age of 38. BBC Sport

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22558393
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 May, 2013 10:08 am
@spendius,
A brilliant analysis old lad. The Championship is still pretty good, in many ways it's a lot more exciting with two way traffic. Wigan can always get promoted, and they should be seeing a bit of European action as well.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 May, 2013 03:05 pm
And now some good news.

Quote:
Perhaps for the first time in his political career, Nigel Farage, the scourge of British politics, found himself in retreat on Thursday evening as dozens of protesters hounded him out of central Edinburgh.

The Ukip leader was finally whisked away in a police riot van under a tirade of abuse from a crowd of about 50 young demonstrators – students, anti-racist campaigners and activists in the radical left pro-Scottish independence movement – after being forced to retreat not once, twice or three times, but four times.

Farage had arrived at the Canon's Gait in buoyant mood, planning for his long-denied breakthrough into Scottish politics.

"We've proved we can get votes in Wales, England and Northern Ireland, We're still untested in Scotland," he said. "We've not had an opportunity to test Ukip policies with the Scottish people for a very long time." Asked about Ukip's chances, he was optimistic. "I wouldn't be at all surprised if we did quite creditably."

Less than 30 minutes after speaking those words, the MEP for South-East Counties was sitting hunched on the rear seat of a police riot van being driven off at speed, his plans to introduce Otto Inglis, Ukip's ever hopeful candidate for the Scottish parliament byelection on 20 June, forgotten.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/16/nigel-farage-edinburgh-protesters-van

Otto Inglis sounds like a Bond villain's lackey.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 May, 2013 10:03 am
@izzythepush,
I see Farage is now trying to pick a fight with the SNP. The only ones who will benefit from this are the SNP. As Salmond said, 'Farage has lost the plot.'
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 17 May, 2013 12:09 pm
@izzythepush,

The Scots are very nice and friendly people, who love everybody, unless they happen to be English.
contrex
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2013 02:04 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

As Salmond said, 'Farage has lost the plot.'


If he ever had it. He has pissed off the BBC now. Last night on the TV news you could hear the glee in their voices. He is coming over as a bit of a lightweight. I did see a report in the Spanish paper El Mundo which says that although UKIP got 9% of the votes in the recent local elections, a monthly UK opinion poll that tracks support for EU membership actually showed a drop in support for leaving the union. Personally I see a common thread with, for example, the Scottish and Catalan independence debates - I was drinking with a Scot and several Catalans in Girona last week and before the beer took a hold we all agreed that 1. It is good to be wary of bullshit merchants waving pretty flags around and spouting fancy slogans which cover up a lack of realistic plans and 2. "Independence" cuts both ways and leaving the EU, Britain or Spain could leave people worse off (i.e. broke).


 

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