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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2013 11:08 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The article closed with the specualtion that the lower rate migh also be associated with the NHS by delays in getting access to specialists and hospitals.

The embarassment in front of doctors could also be a result of characteristics of the medical establishment itself, though I have no specific knowledge of the system in the UK.

My experience has been that doctors become more attentive to my wants and convenience when they know I can take my busiess elsewhere. It helps a lot to be in charge of the relationship.

How does the U.S. stack up in these survival statistics?

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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jan, 2013 09:50 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
It helps a lot to be in charge of the relationship.


Not always. I think one aspect of certain types of shopping is to get a buzz from having short and temporary bursts of power over the sales staff. Being "Yes sir"ed to. Having been conditioned to desire that sort of thing.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jan, 2013 10:30 pm
@spendius,
That's not it at all. One must be very short on experience in life to be exilerated by mere sucking up. Instead it is the simple ability to go elsewhere if one is not satisfied.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2013 05:58 am
@georgeob1,
I could do with being a bit shorter of experience of life George. I'm sure I would be a much better person if I believed such things as "That's not it at all."

In fact, the use of such an expression, a synonym for "nonsense" or "rubbish", signifies to me a personality addicted to being sucked up to. As also does the deployment of gratuitous insults.

I have had four changes of doctor. They were forced upon me by the deaths of four doctors. Two of them I had never met. My not being satisfied with any of them, or my present one, simply never arises.

The idea that a doctor has a financial interest in my health is not one I care for. I think that a doctor who gets paid whether or not I visit his surgery has an interest in making sure I'm in good shape.
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2013 06:47 am
@spendius,
Also, our docs get funded for carrying out preventative medicine, for carrying out regular health and wellbeing checks, and so on, which I think is a good thing.

I've seen the downside of American medical practice, in Las Vegas and also in California, and it's not good for the majority. Not in A & E at any rate.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2013 12:17 pm
Seems, Fulham didn't pay the electricity bill. Wink
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2013 04:15 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Not all of us are wealthy enough to watch football live.

I suppose somebody had a shilling for the meter.

I could mention that the rugby was on, but maybe I won't.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 05:01 am
@McTag,
Quote:
Former cabinet minister Chris Huhne has pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice over claims his ex-wife Vicky Pryce took speeding points for him a decade ago.

The Lib Dem MP, 58, changed his plea on the first day of his trial at Southwark Crown Court.

His former wife, Vicky Pryce, has pleaded not guilty to the same offence.

They were charged last year in relation to the alleged offence in 2003.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21320992

Oh Yes!
McTag
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 08:54 am
@izzythepush,

That's good, eh? It's nice, as the BBC did, to run clips of his denial, last year, and his admission of guilt, today.
I wonder what changed his mind? Couldn't be conscience, could it?

Also in today's news, Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain.
Dickie Rex came to a sticky end, apparently.
The very strange case of the discovery of a Plantaganet in a car park, amazing.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 10:12 am
@McTag,
I'm sure what changed his mind was evidence. Eastleigh is right next door to me, and the by election will be a lot of fun. Huhne only got in because Labour voters voted tactically. The Tories will probably let back in. The last Tory MP was found dead hanging from the rafters, with a black bag over his head, trousers round his ankles, a mouth full of orange, and a head full of amyl nitrate. J. Arthur Rank would be ashamed to have his name used in such circumstances.

In any event the Coalition are going to be picking lumps out of each other. What fun.
McTag
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 04:34 pm
@izzythepush,
These e-mails with his son were pretty damning, eh.
He must have been shocked when they came up. Seems e-mails never really go away! Shame, that.

Nice story about the Tory wanker, I didn't know that. Nick Clegg looked really sick too. Farage will be rubbing his hands.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 05:27 pm
@McTag,
I remember it well, it was John Major's 1992 cabinet with a majority of 22, just after Black Wednesday, and we were counting down the Tory majority. Stephen Milligan's body was found in 'mysterious circumstances,' my wife and I looked at each other, and she said, 'I bet it's something pervy.'
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 06:04 pm
@izzythepush,
It's all to do with our obsession with go-getters, early morning risers and alpha wankers.

I can't understand it. I would jail anybody just for looking like Huhne. His Mum was the Speaking Clock for ****'s sake. And he worked for the Grauniad.

'Nuf said.

I hope Mrs Hulne's case is dismissed on the grounds that punishing a wife for loyalty to her husband is absurd.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2013 06:30 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
I hope Mrs Hulne's case is dismissed on the grounds that punishing a wife for loyalty to her husband is absurd.


Not me, she was an adult, and a well respected economist in her own right. The defence of marital coercion doesn't wash, she should go down.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2013 05:13 am
@izzythepush,
You're a cruel man izzy.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2013 06:29 am
@spendius,
No I'm not, I believe in equality across the board. I would make an exception if one partner was particularly domineering, but we're talking about two professionals here.

Let's not forget, she put her own neck in the noose when she mentioned her involvement in criminal activity once Huhne spurned her.

Spouses cannot be compelled to testify against their partners, but if they get involved in criminal activity then they're equally culpable.

Would you be as forgiving if she'd helped dispose of a body? I know that's an extreme example, but a zero tolerance approach is the only one that makes sense.

In any event, she's given her defence and it's down to a jury to decide whether or not it mitigates her behaviour sufficiently enough. I'll go along with whatever they decide one way or the other.

Sending upper middle class professionals to pokey sends a message to other white collar criminals.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2013 06:46 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Sending upper middle class professionals to pokey sends a message to other white collar criminals.


Yeah! And we all love it don't we? Aitken, Archer and Hulne slopping out does cheer us all up a bit I must admit.

I would expect a wife of mine to take the speeding points on first request. And I would expect her to agree without thinking about it.

Quote:
Would you be as forgiving if she'd helped dispose of a body?


It would depend whose body it was.

You "equality" guys. Sheesh!! Wanting a lady to be caged for taking her husband's speeding points.

Watch out girls--there's an "equal opportunities" man about. The cops round here would have just rolled their eyes. Even if she had been an astronaut. "You can't charge a woman with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice for taking her husband's speeding points and telling lies without making yourself look ridiculous", they would have added.

McTag
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2013 06:46 am
@izzythepush,

Hell hath no fury....
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2013 06:49 am
@spendius,
You might say that women are only on earth to pervert the course of justice. Wouldn't it be simply awful if they were otherwise.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2013 09:28 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
I would expect a wife of mine to take the speeding points on first request. And I would expect her to agree without thinking about it.


That's probably why you've never been married.
 

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