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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2009 12:39 pm

Voices of more Britons raised against Blair, "war criminal"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/13/relatives-soldiers-killed-iraq-blair
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 14 Oct, 2009 01:30 pm
@McTag,
Quote:
Still, do you think the nation would have been better served, in an early-evening programme, by showing the Prime Minister reading out all 37 names and regiments?


Yes--I do. I wouldn't have started showing the series unless I was prepared to go through with it. I would have anticipated the sort of response I gave and wouldn't have cared to mount a defence to it.

There was something else missing as well. It was the Conservative and Liberal Democrat leaders not doing the same thing as they usually do with one or two soldier's deaths.

Quote:
And it made me think, what might Browns' secret thoughts be, as he read out the names of the dead in an illegal conflict which he voted for.


I don't think Prime Ministers can afford to indulge themselves too much in the sort of thing I think you have in mind.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 15 Oct, 2009 01:07 am
@McTag,

Bereaved father to Blair: "I'm not shaking your hand. You've got blood on it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/09/iraq-war-service-blair-snub
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2009 04:07 pm
Pip pip! Check out this thread.

http://able2know.org/topic/137644-1
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2009 04:10 pm
Oh yeah, and I forgot to post:
I got to go to the 'afterwards celebrations' of the end of the Iraq war service. Which was pretty interesting, although I was serving chamange (of course). But I got to see the Blairs, and David Cameron and Charles and Camilla, and Prince William, who is actually quite bald.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 23 Oct, 2009 05:18 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Yes--all these events have "receptions" afterwards when the cameras and the simpering voice-overs have fucked off.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 24 Oct, 2009 06:28 pm
Howdy, McT. How's things?
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 03:42 am
@blatham,


I'll tell you how things are, Bernie m'boy.

Things are just peachy, that's how.

What's this about the Pope tapping up our priests, still under contract?
I think FIFA will need to look into this, toot sweet.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 04:42 am
@McTag,
I see that top Christian prelates are lining up against the BNP.

I wonder if atheists agree with them.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 08:18 am
@McTag,
Are you thinking maybe a lot of barrels of gunpowder smuggled into the downstairs wine cellars at the Vatican?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 11:03 am
@McTag,
That's American B+ wit Mac. Isn't it marvellous?

Well done Liverpool eh?

Are you going to watch the NFL game at Wembley? The build up looks really silly. I'm up for the Patriots.
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 11:38 am
@blatham,

This seems a very rum do. (nothing to do with wine, that)

I heard previously that the Catholic Church are having difficulty keeping clergy numbers up. It's a dying trade. (hey, another merry quip, I'm on a roll)
So this new wheeze seems like a win-win. One in the eye for the Prods, and a few hundred misogynistic God-botherers onto the payroll. A stroke of genius worthy of Dan Brown.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 01:00 pm
@McTag,
It amazes me Mac that mature men of intelligence and experience seem to be totally oblivious of the task the clergy has on its hands and how difficult it is to accomplish in view of the fact that it runs contrary to the exigencies of life. It is almost as difficult as countermanding the laws of science.

There are those, I will admit, who think that the performance of the task is un-necessary but I do believe that such people would not be the sort you might invite to your house for dinner.

Another thing that amazes me is that those who are oblivious to the task of the clergy have so little regard for the people of the past whose obvious felt need for the task to be attempted at all they put down to ignorance and superstition as if they have had some sudden brilliant insight not given to our forbears who created the culture of which they are the fortunate beneficiaries.

Of course, such a cavalier and self-indulgent attitude is affordable because these things work out their destiny very slowly and any serious failure to accomplish the task, or to even hold the line, will not affect them in their lifetime all that much. Thus they can have the benefits of the clergy's work and at the same time belittle and snigger at it with all sorts of highly original witticisms which serve the purpose of exposing their disregard for the welfare of future generations.

It is very similar with their attitude to credit and to the status of the environment.




McTag
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 03:10 pm
@spendius,

Spendy, control of the masses through the promulgation of fear, and a craving for power and influence, that's what it is.

I commend the recent works of Richard Dawkins to you.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 03:49 pm
@McTag,
As I said --"It amazes me Mac that mature men of intelligence and experience seem to be totally oblivious of the task the clergy has on its hands and how difficult it is to accomplish in view of the fact that it runs contrary to the exigencies of life. "

You seriously underestimate the intelligence and the courage of our forbears.

But I can see the attraction of such an easy explanation as you offer.

As for Dawkins--it's too simple for me.
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 25 Oct, 2009 08:36 pm
@spendius,
On behalf of all Americans, I humbly apologize for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
McTag
 
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Reply Mon 26 Oct, 2009 01:08 am
@spendius,

Okay I'll buy. Perhaps you could expound your opinion of

Quote:
the task the clergy has on its hands


self-imposed though it be.
McTag
 
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Reply Mon 26 Oct, 2009 01:10 am
@Ticomaya,

Buccaneer, that name derives from a process of drying meat in strips.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 26 Oct, 2009 01:16 am
@spendius,

Quote:
Well done Liverpool eh?


Indeed. I always support whichever team is playing against ManU.
It's at times like this I miss Steve.

But this morning I am sad and perplexed because I set my recorder to catch the highlights last night and it recorded the previous programme instead. Charlie Boorman in Indonesia, as it happens.
lmur
 
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Reply Mon 26 Oct, 2009 03:21 am
@McTag,
Perhaps your VTR is mired in BST? (Or whichever was in force up until Sunday morning).
 

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