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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jun, 2008 05:47 pm
I think it was the rudest goal I have ever seen. Even Ruud looked sheepish.
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jun, 2008 06:31 pm
spendius wrote:
I think it was the rudest goal I have ever seen. Even Ruud looked sheepish.

Spendi you obviously don't know the rules of football, it was a most clever goal, Ruud knew what he had to do and did it perfectly and all within the rules!
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jun, 2008 08:59 pm
Dutchy wrote:
... and all within the rules!


Hmmm. The rules must be different over in Europe.
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jun, 2008 11:23 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
... and all within the rules!


Hmmm. The rules must be different over in Europe.

Like spendi you're also offside on this one Tico. Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 12:26 am
spendius wrote:
What about that first goal Dutch.


Ticomaya wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
... and all within the rules!


Hmmm. The rules must be different over in Europe.


The injured player behind the goal counted as a player on the field and therefore it was not offside - that rule was changed by the FIFA (or UEFA?).... some time ago.

[Article 11.4.1. of the refereeing code that states "an opposing player cannot be offside when one of the last two defenders has left the field of play" .... according to the BBC]
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 12:30 am
Section 11.11 of FIFA's Advice to Referees
Section 11.4.1 of Laws of the Game, FIFA Refereeing Code

Quote:
But what looked a desperately poor decision was, in fact, a brilliant piece of officiating, according to the chairman of Austria's refereeing commission Gerhard Kapl.

Kapl said Van Nistelrooy was played onside by Italy's Christian Panucci, who had been injured seconds earlier and was lying behind the goal when the Dutch striker scored.

He said the goal was "100% correct, without any doubt", quoting article 11.4.1. of the refereeing code that states "an opposing player cannot be offside when one of the last two defenders has left the field of play" - as in the case of Panucci.

Kapl said the rule was specifically designed to prevent a team causing a deliberate offside.

BBC

United States Soccer Federation: ADVICE TO REFEREES
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 12:39 am
Thank you Walter, I knew I was 100% correct, because I was advised of this by a good friend in the Netherlands, who happens to be a top referee himself! I rest my case.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 03:34 am
Italy were down to 10 men as well.

I think the new rule is designed to stop defenders stepping behind the line as a gambit. Surely it doesn't apply to prone, injured players behind the line and possibly on a stretcher.

It was offside for me.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 06:29 am
Offside.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 02:08 pm
Hi Dutchy yes I did see the first Van Nistelrooy goal

And it was perfectly legitimate...if a little hard on the Italians. The Italian player on the ground and knocked off the pitch by his own goal keeper was still an "active" player!

Speaking of which today I came across two delightful Dutch tourists on bikes trying to negotiate National Cycle Route 1 from Harwich to London. There is a bit in the middle, near here where the track is not complete. So I took them the route I knew and we had a cup of tea in a cafe by the river and all is well with the world...including the Holland football team!
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jun, 2008 03:18 pm
Pleased you see it that way Steve, immaterial now, as the Dutch scored two more brilliant goals and thoroughly deserved their win. This team reminds me of 1988, a very cohesive unit with a lot of spirit, not often seen in the Dutch National team.

I'll bet the tourist were delighted with your nice gesture and shouted you for the coffee. Smile

btw What's happened to smorgs, have seen her post for a long time?
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 06:09 am
The other two goals were breakaways caused by Italy pressing up field to try to remedy the initial injustice. I can't see either of them being scored at 0-0.

There's some doom and gloom at the grass roots. Even plumbers are worried.

Still-Government employees are okay. They might end up the only ones with any cash to spend. And they go on strike too.
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Francis
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 06:13 am
This is not a philosophy thread, but if the world was fair, it would be known, no?
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 07:23 am
It's the anybody can come on thread and say anything they want.

I think.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 09:20 am
Smorgs appears to be on furlough or sabbatical and who can say how long for?

But hope springs eternal, they say. Her eager disciples await.

(I hope she's got a shilling for the meter)
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 09:21 am
spendius wrote:
It's the anybody can come on thread and say anything they want.

I think.


When I post no bugger says buggerall. I'm in a mood, now.
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Mathos
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 01:54 pm
Not to worry Mac.

It's the time of year I think mate, everybody is busy one way or another.


I'm only just clear and I'm bloody glad to be I can tell you.

I have had to get two ton of soil up twenty six steps and cover a flat distance of about sixty yards with it.

The only way is two buckets at a time. I've moved a ton and a half, the last half ton can wait a while, I'll maybe manage it tomorrow morning when I get back from Clitheroe and surrounding districts.

Two more lawns to mow and strim as well.

I think I'll buy some sheep for this lot.

I was having a natter with a couple of Travellers this morning, early on I'd stopped for a coffee at a service area on the A59. I'll stick some pics up later on the Red Rose Thread.

Then on the way back from dropping one of my grandsons at home tonight, a recovery wagon and Shell Tanker (fully loaded the driver told me} had a nasty collision.

That could have been a mess.

So all's well with the world, and a lot of folk are intact, who might have been roasted a couple of hours back.

Me included.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 02:13 pm
Would you like us to get a petition up to have you awarded the George Cross. It sounds like a very close shave and you must be a very cool customer to have handled it so wonderfully well.

You silly sod.

Get strimming and see that the lawn edges are straight and neatly barbered.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 02:21 pm
Mathos wrote:
Not to worry Mac.

It's the time of year I think mate, everybody is busy one way or another.


I'm only just clear and I'm bloody glad to be I can tell you.

I have had to get two ton of soil up twenty six steps and cover a flat distance of about sixty yards with it.

The only way is two buckets at a time. I've moved a ton and a half, the last half ton can wait a while, I'll maybe manage it tomorrow morning when I get back from Clitheroe and surrounding districts.

Two more lawns to mow and strim as well.

I think I'll buy some sheep for this lot.

I was having a natter with a couple of Travellers this morning, early on I'd stopped for a coffee at a service area on the A59. I'll stick some pics up later on the Red Rose Thread.

Then on the way back from dropping one of my grandsons at home tonight, a recovery wagon and Shell Tanker (fully loaded the driver told me} had a nasty collision.

That could have been a mess.

So all's well with the world, and a lot of folk are intact, who might have been roasted a couple of hours back.

Me included.


Roofers don't carry slates/ tiles up ladders any more, I notice. It's all conveyers now. Maybe you could have adapted one of these lightweight conveyers to move your soil up.
Maybe not.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jun, 2008 02:22 pm
spendius wrote:
Would you like us to get a petition up to have you awarded the George Cross. It sounds like a very close shave and you must be a very cool customer to have handled it so wonderfully well.

You silly sod.

Get strimming and see that the lawn edges are straight and neatly barbered.


Spendy stoppit. That's jolly bad-mannered.
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