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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
Clary
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 04:39 am
Funny you should mention the Orkneyology, McT, a friend who's just come back from there was gobsmacked, thunderstruck and generally impressed with the stone-age detritus.

We can't help being somewhat awestruck by manmade things 5000 years old, can we? Even though being awestruck by a new mobile phone would probably be more logical.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 05:32 am
Yes, it's well gobsmacking.

I read a book once by Prof A Thom, Megalithic Sites in Britain. The culture which gave rise to Stonehenge and Callanish and monuments other major sites, about which so little is known, stretched from Iceland to the Mediterranean.
Prof Thom showed that the same units of measurement were employed in the construction of sites widely separated by geography, and that the constructors had good knowledge of celestial physics.

Not your stereotypical stone-age people.

Steve, somebody sent me a joke:

JT VODKA. MADE IN LONDON. BOTTLED IN MOSCOW.

Very Happy
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Izzie
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 06:38 am
Afternoon All Smile

EEEEuuuuuuw - the weather is monstrous here. Raging storm and wholly unpleasant. Clary, hope your side of the moors is faring better.

Hope it's better up your way Mac and Spendi.

StevieBoy is on his hols Mac so not sure if he'll be checking in.

Wishing you all a good day Smile
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 08:18 am
CalamityJane wrote:
Walter doesn't drink alcohol, Tico.


I know, but had momentarily forgotten. I posted and then left to do other things, remembering the wrongness of my comment moments later.

But we have the best near beer in the world:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3299/sharpspu3.gif
"Sharps ... it's like water with a drop of beer."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 08:27 am
Thanks, Tico, I appreciate that - but I don't drink "non alcoholic beer neither"

But some Arden's Garden apple juice would be nice :wink:
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 01:37 pm
walter wrote :

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I don't drink "non alcoholic beer neither"


so switch to CANADA DRY (ginger) ALE - just like TERRY AND THE PIRATES ! :wink:
go ahead and pick your favourite character .

WHAT A RARE REFRESHMENT ! Laughing



http://www.digitaldeliftp.com/Images/pings/canada20.png
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 03:10 pm
Clary wrote-

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We can't help being somewhat awestruck by manmade things 5000 years old, can we? Even though being awestruck by a new mobile phone would probably be more logical.


It certainly would. Those other things are like yesterday's mashed potatoes.

Could anybody even attempt to give a detailed description of the Champion's League Final in Moscow.

We tried in the pub the other night imagining Plato beamed in and he asked us what that big coloured thing was on the wall showing a NASCAR event. He soon got his bearings after three pints of John Smith's Extra Smooth (well- it was me actually---I played Plato. I tied them in knots. They hadn't the language. And architecture is a language too. A pagan with a bit of nonce from a hot country would think evolution had gone haywire at seeing NASCAR.)

You can't really connect. It's for passing the time.

And language itself has an architecture which is Christian but as science prospers more pagan derivatives infiltrate.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 26 May, 2008 08:47 pm
spendius wrote:
Cal wrote-

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By the way, California hardly has any ruins. We tear down everything that's beyond the age of 40.


Oh- come on Cal. It's not that bad surely? In our pub 40 year-old ruins are at a premium. When we see one we crowd around elbowing each other.


I can believe that, spendius. I picture your neighborhood to be full of
old crones and geezers.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 02:35 am
Let me share the good news with you:

Stockport FC have reached the First Division via the playoffs!

Let the word go forward from this time and place

Or actually Wembley Stadium yesterday at ten to five, but you know what I mean.

Very Happy Very Happy :wink: Rolling Eyes Embarrassed Laughing Laughing Laughing Idea Exclamation
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 07:15 am
You certainly do remember, McTag, when City Town payed in one division together together .... just a few years ago, before they became a farm club, ehem a veterans team ... well, you know what I mean :wink:
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 11:45 am
Cal wrote-

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I can believe that, spendius. I picture your neighborhood to be full of old crones and geezers.


I'm not typical of my neighbourhood.

Have a look at the picture of Earl's Palace ruin on Mac's link.

What does it say about vanity? It has set its teeth into the face of the wind-whipped waves of rain, sleet and snow (and we can still see how proudly and determinedly) and it has been pissed on. It looks a bit like the end-game of a snowman.

Its decay has probably been arrested by the Tourist Board at the present state of things. Another form of vanity which will be pissed on in its turn.

Restoration being as impossible a thing to contemplate as shoveling it on to trucks for base material in a road for reasons too Byzantine to explain but which can be boiled down to feather bedders fighting their corner.

The dereliction might even have been accelerated in places for dramatic effect. Who knows? You can do things up there in the long, dark nights of winter that nobody will ever know about unless you tell them. You could get a tape of ghostly incantatations to play at some astrologically auspicious moments and there would be Coca-Cola stands and burgher franchises sprouting up like mushrooms in the lower paddock.

Maybe the fascination with such things is due to a deep, unconscious yearning for the simpler times which are often thought by fools to have existed in the past. Modern life being a bit daunting is, I suppose, one of the reasons but I don't discount sheer boredom coming into conjunction with a chance happening in the immediate visual field as the spark.

I once sent a postcard of greeting to a vicar of the C. of E. which showed a church on Islay with no roof or windows and some sheep grazing on the grass growing where I presume the worshippers had once knelt to pray that it would stup phucking pissing down and blowing a teeth-chattering gale.

He was the only C. of E. vicar, he's been promoted since, to ever have been spotted chugging up the main drag in a Morris Minor through a snowstorm during the pre-Xmas till-jingling introduction to the eating and drinking festival with a full scale rocking-horse fastened on his roof rack. Had daughters two. His promotion took him to hunting country so those girls were being shown the rudiments of riding.

I'm all for modern life as Clary hinted. The next generation of computers will be capable of providing fairly realistic interaction scenarios between members of sites such as this as good as makes no difference. Maybe better.

I've not got the technical details sorted out yet. I'm not much good at technology. I had to saw a Smartie tube in half last week with the breadknife.

Initially, to allow time for the fuddie-duddies to cark it, it would have to be restricted to the PM system of course. Fully moderated.

Even I can see that there will be two basic types of computer and desk set-ups. The Yinner and the Yanger. Each will spawn ever more perfected solutions in the normal and natural manner. Indeed they will be unable to prevent themselves from doing so.

Spending time and effort, money in a word, on Megalithic ruins can only arise from long rhapsodising on the Willendorf Venus and other such pre-pagan crudities.

It's corsets and hundred buttoned basques now.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 03:00 pm
Spendy, I don't know what you're on but can you save some for me?

Walter, would you like to try that again?

Ruins....interesting, after the Reformation in Scotland (much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth) a very large cathedral in the town of St Andrews was partly demolished and many of the fine masonry went on improving buildings in the town. The Scots being quick to spot a bargain.

Similarly, but more slowly, a lot of the stones from Hadrian's Wall went apparently on building farmhouses and smaller walls around about. Why open a new quarry when you've got a warsurplus wall to go at?
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 06:18 pm
I once witnessed a whole street in Lancaster being repaved with 3 ft x 2ft concrete flags because people were said to have been legging up on the stone ones of various sizes and getting injured and causing NHS expenses to rise.

Knowing as I did of the market in real stone paving down south I enquired of the price of it all and was told, a finger touching the nose style, that they were already earmarked for the Council Leader's courtyard in a barn conversion he was engaged upon.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 03:29 pm
Did anybody see the panning The Sunday Times book reviewer, a lady too, gave to Cherie's book which is now in the shops almost untouched by human hand. That's bitching.

She shredded the Scouse Git. For such a short piece she left no stone unturned. The exasperation the reviewer was feeling at having to read through the stuff for £50 is palpable.

I might consider keeping my head down if I was Cherie and The Sunday Times was taking such a view. They can be like a dog on a bone at times. Cherie's picture on the dartboard and the cubicle doors in the staff washrooms sort of thing. They are jealous as hell. Who does she think she is???

I'm looking forward to Mr Blurr's book though.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 11:54 pm
Didn't see The Times, but every other review and comment about Mrs Blair's book and conduct which I have seen has been very critical. The Guardian satirists and cartoonists have been having a right go.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 11:17 am
Bit slow at the mo.
Where's Steve? Where's Smorgs? Ou sont les neiges d'antan?
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 11:43 am
I think we've had it with smorgsie Mac.

It's hot here. My lean-to with the glass walls is stupifying. It made me sweat lighting a stogie.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 11:47 am
McTag wrote:
Ou sont les neiges d'antan?


Gone with the wind, McT..

Like many other nice things...
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 01:59 pm
Planted some summer bedding plants today. Not as many as Mathos obviously, but enough to make me sweat, and stop gratefully for a drink of tea when her indoors finally got back from the shops.....

...and I was told that the garden looked really nice, which makes it all worth while.

Smile
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 03:20 pm
I'm here. just back from Cornwall.

I love that county. But what a journey back...fuel protesters and all!

Travelled the Atlantic Highway (A39) to Bude Bideford and Barnstaple then to M5 and M4 M25 M11.

diesel 134.9p/litre.
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