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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 03:46 am
Right. Enough of this frivolity. Anyone want id cards?
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:12 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
Right. Enough of this frivolity. Anyone want id cards?


I don't really see what all the fuss is about. I've got a passport, and my details are held against several credit cards.
Is the proposed new ID card materially different/ more prone to misuse?

I'm not sure it is.

However recent reports in the papers tell us that "The Authorities" principally The Home Office are no good at keeping data in-house.
Maybe we shouldn't hand them a stick to beat us with.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:15 am
I've been pulling down part of an old ceiling this morning and very messy it is.

But the plasterer is not here yet.

Have a cup of tea.
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Francis
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:25 am
McTag wrote:
But the plasterer is not here yet.


Ah, those Poles, always late! Twisted Evil
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:45 am
McTag wrote:
Maybe we shouldn't hand them a stick to beat us with.
In principle I have nothing against id cards, except they will be lost stolen forged and used to finger the innocent whilst the bad guys get away with murder. Except they cant be forged (oh yes?). But we are "at war" apparently. No doubt our enemies a trembling at the thought of Ms Smith's heaving bosom.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 04:52 am
McTag wrote:
I don't really see what all the fuss is about. I've got a passport, and my details are held against several credit cards.
Is the proposed new ID card materially different/ more prone to misuse?


Steve 41oo wrote:
McTag wrote:
Maybe we shouldn't hand them a stick to beat us with.
In principle I have nothing against id cards, except they will be lost stolen forged and used to finger the innocent whilst the bad guys get away with murder. Except they cant be forged (oh yes?). But we are "at war" apparently. No doubt our enemies a trembling at the thought of Ms Smith's heaving bosom.


We've got ID-cards here since ... well, since 1938 Embarrassed

And then, after the war, the Allied re.intruced them - so Mrs. Walter still has an ID-card as citizen of the British Zone.

I find them more practical, you can carry them in your purse, you don't need a passport besides in countries which issue a visa, ...
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 05:24 am
I'm against ID cards. They are too much like those ID wristbands they put on babies in the birthing block so the babies don't get mixed up.

As if it mattered.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 05:28 am
spendius wrote:
I'm against ID cards. They are too much like those ID wristbands they put on babies in the birthing block so the babies don't get mixed up.

As if it mattered.


No doubt you would be happy at the prospect of a little cuckoo Spendy being fattened in someone else's nest.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 05:39 am
I heard the home secretary saying data will be very carefully kept discrete and separate. Only very few people will be able to pull all the strands together. That may very well be true but it still increases greatly the knowledge and therefore power the state has over the individual.

Its quite obvious where we are headed, to a society where everyone is numbered and all records referenced accordingly. DNA taken at birth (or before) will be used to supply the biometric data incorporated on the card. It will be completely fool-proof. Except for identical twins obviously. But no doubt they are working on that.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 05:44 am
So if HM Queen is number one obviously, and I am 41 (its not zero zero its oh oh) where would smorgs fit in? Or Spendy. Or more important Walter?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 05:56 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
Or more important Walter?


I would like to keep mine, if THEY don't mind

http://i32.tinypic.com/2jc6kom.jpg
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 05:59 am
I think the new system the DVLC have got for licensing/taxing/MoT of cars and keeping track of all that, works very well.
Maybe people should be licensed, taxed and MoT'd in the same way.

I know plenty who should be condemned.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 06:02 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
Or more important Walter?


I would like to keep mine, if THEY don't mind

http://i32.tinypic.com/2jc6kom.jpg


This is now being cloned in Uzbekistan and they have ordered the minibus to deliver 10 more Walters to Munich tomorrow.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 06:10 am
ok 5726858131049022161012057, you can. But now I know your number I could easily quote 5726858131049022161012057 and people would think I was you.

How's the ceiling going McT?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 06:27 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
But now I know your number I could easily quote 5726858131049022161012057 and people would think I was you.


Well, it's not so easy.

One of the highlightened numbers (but, of course, it depends on the total combination of numbers as well) proves that I'm a life-long Schalke supporter; the next the time I'm an A2K-member, and the third that I don't drink alcohol as a rsult of that all.

Hidden there is as well .... well, those Usbekistanis should find such out themselves.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 06:28 am
but the progress of technology is relentless

and meanwhile back in the lab

Quote:
Scientists have developed a computerised mind-reading technique which lets them accurately predict the images that people are looking at by using scanners to study brain activity.

...Writing in the journal Nature, the scientists, led by Dr Jack Gallant from the University of California at Berkeley, said: "Our results suggest that it may soon be possible to reconstruct a picture of a person's visual experience from measurements of brain activity alone. Imagine a general brain-reading device that could reconstruct a picture of a person's visual experience at any moment in time."

It will inevitably also raise fears that a suspect's brain could be interrogated against their will, raising the nightmarish possibility of interrogation for "thought crimes".


http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/mar/06/medicalresearch
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 06:39 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
and meanwhile back in the lab


Thanks to my online subscription of The Guardian, I could enlarge the frontpage.

Here's a detail:

http://i31.tinypic.com/2dsej9g.jpg
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Izzie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 06:52 am
McTag wrote:
I've been pulling down part of an old ceiling this morning and very messy it is.

But the plasterer is not here yet.

Have a cup of tea.



http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/664/p1000280zz9.jpg

Mac, tea for you and the propper... it won't get you plastered, but will be refreshing anyway.


Hello to one and all - wishing you all a pleasant day Smile

(hope the achilles is feeling a little better Smile )
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 07:01 am
Tea bags? http://i25.tinypic.com/256a069.jpg
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Izzie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 07:03 am
Laughing

(so much easier!)

(Hi Walter)
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