THE BRITISH THREAD II

Morning, all. Lazy gits.

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I just heard a doctor on morning TV say

"I'm sure there are people out there eating goodness knows what"

So there you have it.

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Why are people eating "goodness knows what"?

Why are people allowed to make money packaging **** with added salt and selling it to children? (Which they eat on the way to school and drop the wrappings everywhere).

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john toshack said

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"Another five star hotel boys, here we are in Rimini now. Look out the window, if the waves are making a noise in the evening, just phone down and we'll see if we can move you over to one of the rooms on the other side of the hotel.

"We have a chef with us now who makes the food. They travel well wherever they go.

"There are doctors, physios, kit men, masseurs lugging skips about, taking equipment down the training ground and putting it down for them.

"Sometimes I feel that some of these take it for granted and I don't like that and won't accept it.

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John Toshak is right. Pampered kids.
Somebody, Tommy Docherty or Bill Shankly, once said no good footballer ever was raised in a house with central heating.

Never known it so quiet on the British Thread.

I read Spendy on the other thread and I couldn't understand it. Rolling Eyes

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Spendius, I think that your obsevations regarding patriotism actually refers to what I call blind patriotism, or patriotism that overrides fairness and common sense. A bit like the Scots, when they boo and jeer an England team, whoever they happen to be playing.
Ordinary patriotism, to me, means pride in one's country, which obviously comes to the fore when our national team is involved in sporting competition. I am English first, and then British, and proud to be both. If Scotland were playing anyone from outside of the UK, I have no problem in wishing them well and cheering them on.
Anyone who is English would, deep down and however much they wished to suppress it for whatever strange reason, would hope that the English person/team wins on every occasion, I think.
Take Ricky Hatton as an example. Even if you were only mildly interested in boxing, you would be hoping that he does well and wins his next contest, surely.
He, like Amir Khan, is a great lad who has worked his way through to where he is, by sheer hard work, grit and determination. That alone gets my vote for starters. The fact that he is a Brit is good enough for me, but being English is real icing on the cake.
He epitomises the Brit spirit, as far as I am concerned. He was polite, respectful and quiet at that awful TV hyped pre match "confrontation"
the other night, whilst his opponent strutted and ponced about, trying to belittle and humiliate. Ricky will do his job on the night, and if he wins, he'll probably carry on being polite and respectful whilst they carry the loser out of the ring. I'll no doubt lose my voice that night, shouting at the telly and cheering on that lad from Manchester, and am proud to say so.

Is it now a sin for me to declare my pride in my country of birth, nowadays? Ye gods and little fishes. What with the hand wringing PC brigade and the elf and safety merchants, we'll all be wearing sctatchproof sackcloth and ashes within a few generations.

That's a fair rant for a wednesday morning. It may be because I laughingly tried to cook a special meal for someone last night, which ended up a total disaster (in all ways). How the hell do you make onion gravy anyway? Who cares? Next time I'll get a takeaway delivered. Very Happy

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Shame about your evening, doowop. Bummer.

I noticed when Amir Khan was winning his amateur titles his family in the audience used to wave Pakistan flags. They don't now, mabe somebody told them it was a bad idea. Smile

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If his parents were of the opinion that Amir is Pakistani, then that's their confusion of identity, not mine. I think that simply being his parents gives them the right to wave whatever they like, when they cheer him on. He's probably proud of his Pakistani roots, and why shouldn't he be? So, seeing his parents wave their flag probably brought a smile to his face.
Amir was born and raised in England, so to me he is English and I will cheer him on, regardless of colour or creed. Hell, if we all traced back far enough, we'd all find a few drops of "foreign" blood coursing through our veins somewhere, and it's a good thing that makes us what we are, I suppose.

Thanks for the commiserations, McTag, but it was all my fault, making the offer in the first place. The main task was cleaning my abode before the event, let alone the alien activity of cooking that followed. Apparently, the sausages should not be cooked to a cinder before putting them into batter for toad in the hole, and bisto is supposed to be mixed with cold water first, rather than just spooning it into the boiling Oxo.
The toad in the hole looked like a soggy mass that several small animals had died in, and the gravy looked like dark brown porridge. Mashed potato was excellent, though. More fluke than anything, I would say. Very Happy

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smorgs wrote:

Doowop, doowop
Are the stars out tonight?
Doowop, doowop
I don't know if it's cloudy or bright

x

Owing to the yawning age gap that you pointed out the other day, this Paul Anka song is the only one I could think of as a response:-

I'm so young and you're so old
This, my darling, I've been told
I don't care just what they say
'Cause forever I will pray
You and I will be as free
As the birds up in the trees
Oh, please coooook for me, Smorgana.

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Well at least you tried...I am slowly beginning to wish I could cook. I never thought about it before, but it is quite a useful activity.

Regarding sport and nationalism, of course we are all brought up, indoctrinated, into our group our tribe our lot...as opposed to them foreign lot.

I have no problem at all with an English person supporting England, despite the England team being crap and composed of overpaid over pampered ungrateful immature hedonists. (see Toshacks comments on the Welsh squad above and compare on field antics of the soccer play actors with rugby).

But just because I come from Manchester why must I support Manchester City? I dont, my dad and I used to go watch Best Law Crerand Charlton etc.

I dont criticise someone from Scotland supporting City (strange, but I dont mind Smile

)

I like France and in rugby I supported the French. Not just because I like France but because France traditionally play a wonderful game of rugby football. (there have been some recent exceptions). Just as I dont criticise a Londoner for supporting Liverpool, I dont expect raised eyebrows for being English yet supporting France.

And when you talk about the PC brigade, the enforcement actually goes the other way, i.e. the presumed assumption that any English person must support any English team at whatever endeavour. Why?

Anyway the real test is tonight in the freezing cold on a plastic pitch by the banks of the Moscva river. Come on you Bolshevikiis
:wink:

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The levels of personal training which Ricky Hatton and Amir Khan put themselves through are phenomenal.

If you have a local ABA club or even Pro club in your vicinity, make a couple of enquiries regarding sitting in one evening and watching those lads train in general, it will be an eye opener for you.

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Well looks like last strim and cut of the year today and tomorrow.

I'll keep at it until about 3pm and then go down the gym!

What you doing Spendi, pressing lumps out of the couch?

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Mathos wrote:

The levels of personal training which Ricky Hatton and Amir Khan put themselves through are phenomenal.

If you have a local ABA club or even Pro club in your vicinity, make a couple of enquiries regarding sitting in one evening and watching those lads train in general, it will be an eye opener for you.

I think Hatton might cut up against Merryweather. I hope not. If his skin last, I think he's got the firepower and stamina and determination to give Floyd a pasting, over the distance. But it'll need to be one hell of an effort. There's a lot of pride at stake here.

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Steve 41oo wrote:

And when you talk about the PC brigade, the enforcement actually goes the other way, i.e. the presumed assumption that any English person must support any English team at whatever endeavour. Why?

Why? Because we're culturally similar, almost identical, in fact. That makes us effectively one team when we're matched up against anyone else.
Mention Ronnie Barker, Marrowfat peas, PG Tips, HP Sauce, Lea and Perrins, Newcastle Brown, sling yer 'ook, over the yard arm, Bristols, crumpet, totty, Benny from Crossroads and rag, tag and bobtail to anyone who isn't British, and they probably wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about. To most of us, I think, the aforementioned, plus countless other little and large things, bond us together. We watch the same telly, we all drive on the left, we at least understand the idea of room temperature beer, even if we don't like it, we basically understand another Englishman (apart from some of the plebs we meet on holiday) and where he comes from, culturally speaking.
We may enjoy, or even prefer, how a team from another country plays a different style of rugby, but I think I'm right in saying that we would all like to see England win, as long as the game is played fairly. I quite like the style of the French game as well, but that doesn't prevent me from being over the moon that we put them out of the world cup.

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Doowop wrote:

If his parents were of the opinion that Amir is Pakistani, then that's their confusion of identity, not mine. I think that simply being his parents gives them the right to wave whatever they like, when they cheer him on. He's probably proud of his Pakistani roots, and why shouldn't he be? So, seeing his parents wave their flag probably brought a smile to his face.
Amir was born and raised in England, so to me he is English and I will cheer him on, regardless of colour or creed. Hell, if we all traced back far enough, we'd all find a few drops of "foreign" blood coursing through our veins somewhere, and it's a good thing that makes us what we are, I suppose.

Thanks for the commiserations, McTag, but it was all my fault, making the offer in the first place. The main task was cleaning my abode before the event, let alone the alien activity of cooking that followed. Apparently, the sausages should not be cooked to a cinder before putting them into batter for toad in the hole, and bisto is supposed to be mixed with cold water first, rather than just spooning it into the boiling Oxo.
The toad in the hole looked like a soggy mass that several small animals had died in, and the gravy looked like dark brown porridge. Mashed potato was excellent, though. More fluke than anything, I would say.

Here's an easy one. It's a McTag recipe. I did it last night, no complaints.

Cook brown rice as per instructions on the packet.
When rice is done, throw in a couple of cupfuls frozen peas, bring back to boil, then drain.
To a little hot oil in a fryng pan add chilli flakes to taste (rounded teaspoonful approx in my case) and in that, quickly fry a packet of peeled prawns.
Mix with rice and peas, serve with blanched Chinese leaf or whatever veg you like.

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McTag wrote:

Mathos wrote:
The levels of personal training which Ricky Hatton and Amir Khan put themselves through are phenomenal.

If you have a local ABA club or even Pro club in your vicinity, make a couple of enquiries regarding sitting in one evening and watching those lads train in general, it will be an eye opener for you.

I think Hatton might cut up against Merryweather. I hope not. If his skin last, I think he's got the firepower and stamina and determination to give Floyd a pasting, over the distance. But it'll need to be one hell of an effort. There's a lot of pride at stake here.

That's my worry as well. 'Enery Cooper had the same problem. I reckon he'll do OK, and Merryweather will wonder what hit him after about round three.

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McTag wrote:

Doowop wrote:
If his parents were of the opinion that Amir is Pakistani, then that's their confusion of identity, not mine. I think that simply being his parents gives them the right to wave whatever they like, when they cheer him on. He's probably proud of his Pakistani roots, and why shouldn't he be? So, seeing his parents wave their flag probably brought a smile to his face.
Amir was born and raised in England, so to me he is English and I will cheer him on, regardless of colour or creed. Hell, if we all traced back far enough, we'd all find a few drops of "foreign" blood coursing through our veins somewhere, and it's a good thing that makes us what we are, I suppose.

Thanks for the commiserations, McTag, but it was all my fault, making the offer in the first place. The main task was cleaning my abode before the event, let alone the alien activity of cooking that followed. Apparently, the sausages should not be cooked to a cinder before putting them into batter for toad in the hole, and bisto is supposed to be mixed with cold water first, rather than just spooning it into the boiling Oxo.
The toad in the hole looked like a soggy mass that several small animals had died in, and the gravy looked like dark brown porridge. Mashed potato was excellent, though. More fluke than anything, I would say.

Here's an easy one. It's a McTag recipe. I did it last night, no complaints.

Cook brown rice as per instructions on the packet.
When rice is done, throw in a couple of cupfuls frozen peas, bring back to boil, then drain.
To a little hot oil in a fryng pan add chilli flakes to taste (rounded teaspoonful approx in my case) and in that, quickly fry a packet of peeled prawns.
Mix with rice and peas, serve with blanched Chinese leaf or whatever veg you like.

Chilli flakes, (blanched??) Chinese leaf. Sounds complicated, although I know I have a frying pan somewhere.

Second thoughts, I think I'll stick to plan B and order a Chop Suey or summit. Candles on the table, a plateful of something from the Prince of Bengal, something sloppy eminating from the hi fi, and a brand new pair of female sized washing up gloves on the draining board. What girl could ask for more? Very Happy

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Apart from a family size CDM broken into individual squares and left in a trail up the stairs to the lair, of course.

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Well I don't know about that doowop; what if she's a floating voter?
Is the lady not wooed better and more convinced of your excellence if she thinks you have gone to some considerable trouble on her behalf?

On the other hand, if a Big Mac and a Mars Bar does the trick.....less washing up too.

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Wooed better? You mean fruit and nut instead of just ordinary chocolate? I would try this, but in this day and age of rampant nut allergies, it could be risky.

Maybe I should tempt her with the prospect of getting her hands on my curly wurlies.

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