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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
Dorothy Parker
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 01:01 pm
Put some clothes on woman.

Rolling Eyes
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smorgs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 01:02 pm
Here's my prediction then:

2 - 1 to Roma.

Ands loads of trouble at match.

I quite fancy meself as a pundit.


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smorgs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 01:03 pm
Dorothy Parker wrote:
Put some clothes on woman.

Rolling Eyes


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Quick, let's re-femernise the thread before they get back.

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Dorothy Parker
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 01:06 pm
I'm having a really heavy period.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 01:18 pm
smorgs wrote:
Here's my prediction then:

2 - 1 to Roma.

Ands loads of trouble at match.

I quite fancy meself as a pundit.


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So I wait if in the second half your prediction will become true ...
(Might well be, I'll watch another match, some others seem to be more interesting .....)
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 2 Oct, 2007 11:54 pm
Hey what's wrong with A2K? It's gone all wonky.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 12:10 am
Francis, and Walter, what is the German translation or equivalent of the phrase "l'esprit de l'escalier"?
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smorgs
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 12:17 am
McTag wrote:
Hey what's wrong with A2K? It's gone all wonky.


I know!

Mine's a three-legged donkey too.

Nice to see someone up as early as me...

But I bet you're not dressed!

Or have put your mascara on either.

Or ironed your kilt.

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Francis
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 12:22 am
Hope this helps, McT:

Treppenwitz
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 01:42 am
Thank'ee kindly, mein franzoesischer Freund.

See what I did, there, Spendy? No dots.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 01:54 am
So, what was the story with the Fahrkartenkontrolleur? (Either a "Zugbegleiter", which is the normal conductor, or one in civil clothes?)
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 02:45 am
Well it's a longish story.
I admit I was already in a peevish state of mind because of an earlier exchange with one of my fellow travellers who wanted to put his big bloody heavy case where it would not easily go. I gave him some advice about that, then my wife asked me to go and see what was on offer in the restaurant car. So, I helpfully began to make my way there.
Five carriages or so later, I met the ticket inspector who as far as I can remember was not in uniform.
He wanted to see my ticket, not too unreasonably I suppose, and I explained that it was back at my seat. He told me to go and get it- he was unwilling to let me pass him, and that's when I lost my rag. I told him there was no way I was walking back five carriages just to get the ticket just for him, he could see it when he reached our seats (which would have taken him about 20 minutes anyway). He was rude and aggressive, and that was what ticked me off.
I told him to go and perform an impossible act, in the phrase I reported before, and walked on. He even then followed me into the restaurant car and told them not to serve me, and that I would be put off the train at the next stop.
I gave him some advice including the fact that the train was not there for him, it was there for me, the travelling public, and he could see my two tickets when he got to my place. A big shouting match, with everyone else taking a renewed close interest in their coffee cups.

Result? Inspector 1 McTag 0 because I did not get my sandwich, but he got some advice about how the paying public expect to be treated.

At the next stop he did actually come past with two armed police, pulling on surgical gloves, but you will be relieved to learn they were not there to deal with me.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 03:07 am
ouch

(the armed squad were probably to deal with someone dropping litter)

I find people in Germany extremely polite, and very sympathetic when they realised I'm English. But they definitely have a different attitude towards Rules.

On the other hand I dont think German transport police would pump 7 dum dum bullets in your head for looking like a terrorist suspect.

Anyhoo apart from that hope you had an excellent time. (Man Utd beat Roma btw)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 05:13 am
Well that his been some (not so) nice experience about German railway law and ticket by-laws.

Actually, if you were a German, McTag, the chance had been big that the federal police (which is our railway police, too) had waited for you at the next stop ...

http://i24.tinypic.com/4q258n.jpg
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 06:12 am
Yes, the two who came on to our train looked like that, except one was female.

I wonder what the other guy did? I would have liked to have upset that inspector even more. Perhaps I'll meet him next time.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 06:18 am
Seriously: since the terrorists tried ttried to blow up some trains, most of us do support such strong controls - which are still a lot less than elsewhere. (In the USA, you get handcuffed when acted such I witnessed.)
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 06:26 am
Well, McPoo.

I think any terrorist or bomber of efficiency would take care to have a valid ticket.

Mind you, perhaps that's why he took a dislike to me. Rolling Eyes :wink: Idea Shocked Embarrassed

Profile and target Jocks with attitude.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 06:58 am
Quote:
?'Massive' bomb plot thwarted in Germany

By Hugh Williamson in Berlin

Published: September 5 2007 10:21 | Last updated: September 5 2007 10:21

German security forces have prevented a series of "massive bomb attacks" that could have been more deadly than the Madrid and London bombings, top German officials said on Wednesday.

A German terror cell had planned to use the equivalent of 550kg of TNT explosives to mount simultaneous car bomb attacks on US military and civil targets in Germany, Monika Harms, federal chief prosecutor, told a press conference in Karlsruhe, southern Germany.

German special forces personnel arrested the alleged cell members - two Germans who had converted to Islam and a Turkish national based in Germany - in a raid on Tuesday in the Sauerland region of western Germany.

"This was one of the most serious terror attacks ever planned in Germany," said Ms Harms, Germany's top prosecutor. "There could have been a very big death toll," she added, as the amount of explosives collected by the cell exceeded those used in the Madrid train bombings in 2004 that killed 191 people, and the London transport bombings in 2005 that killed 52 people.

Bars and discos frequented by US citizens, and a US military base in Hanau near Frankfurt may have been among the group's targets, Ms Harms said.

She refused to confirm reports by security officials that other targets included Frankfurt airport - the largest airport in continental Europe - and the US base in Ramstein, south-western Germany.

The men belonged to the Islamic Jihad Union, a shadowy terror group linked to al-Qaeda that has its roots in Uzbekistan, according to Jörg Ziercke, president of the BKA federal crime agency.

The terror plan was new evidence of the spread of "home-grown" Islamic terrorism in Europe, security experts said. The three men, aged between 22 and 29, were all without work and claiming unemployment benefits in Germany. They had all visited terror training camps in Pakistan in 2006, Mr Ziercke said.

Wolfgang Schäuble, the German interior minister, said the foiled attacks showed that Germany had become a target for Islamic terror attacks and was no longer simply a region where terrorist "sleepers" were based before mounting attacks elsewhere.

A spokesman for the FBI in Washington said US authorities had been "closely co-ordinating with the Germans on this case," but said there was no imminent threat to the US following the arrests.

Some 300 police were involved in the surveillance operation against the cell that started last December. Chancellor Angela Merkel praised the work of the security forces.

The arrests sparked renewed debate on the need for further tightening of German security laws, in particular by allowing remote computer searches by German security forces.

The cell had obtained 12 vats of hydrogen peroxide weighing 730kg to be used in preparing explosives.

Germany has not been the target of a major Islamic terror attack in recent years, but several alleged terror cells have been broken up and suspects arrested, for instance a Lebanese man charged earlier this year with planning a series of train bombs in 2006.

Three of the pilots involved in the September 11 2001 terror attacks had been living in Hamburg, northern Germany.

Danes put bombmaking suspects on trial

Four alleged bombmakers went on trial in Copenhagen on Wednesday, a day after Danish police arrested eight other alleged Islamic militants suspected of plotting a bomb attack, writes Robert Anderson in Stockholm.

Two Palestinians, an Iraqi Kurd and a Dane pleaded innocent to charges of buying chemicals and equipment to produce explosives. The men were arrested last year in Odense after a tip-off from an informant.

Police allege they were caught with a bomb-making manual and 50 grammes of triacetone triperoxide, used in the 2005 London bombings.

The eight new suspects - who are of Afghan, Pakistani, Somali and Turkish origin - were arrested after police raided 11 addresses in the Danish capital on Monday night. All of the eight new suspects have been charged with terrorist offences and two have been remanded in custody.

Police, who worked with foreign security services, believe that these two suspects are the first militants caught in Denmark with direct links to al-Qaeda.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007
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Francis
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 09:42 am
McTag wrote:
Thank'ee kindly, mein franzoesischer Freund.


Du bist willkommen, McT! Laughing Laughing
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 3 Oct, 2007 04:35 pm
Well it's gone quiet, no?

Just come in from the pub, where once again Smorgs was a no-show, where in a healthy smoke-free atmosphere we discussed the events of the week, foreign travel experiences, sport, and Manchester United (a separate category)
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