Phoenix32890 wrote:jespah wrote:Y'know, there are some of us who pray because we just kinda like doing it. Not necessarily with the expectation of a reward or a fulfillment.
Like I said earlier, it's a mind-body thing. For folks who have been ill with, say, cancer, attitude plays a part. Is there a harm in doing something to foster a positive attitude? For some that's prayer. For others, that's playing skee ball. And so it goes.
No Jes, I don't think that there is any harm in doing whatever it takes to foster a positive attitude. I just tend to look askance at those folks who rely on prayer as their characteristic way of dealing with life.
I don't believe that most people who pray use prayer as their only means of dealing with life. We all have to take responsiblility for our own actions and our own responsibilities. Prayer enhances these things... it does not replace them.
What is it, pray if you like, but go see the doctor about that cough anyway?
jespah wrote:What is it, pray if you like, but go see the doctor about that cough anyway?
Yes, and then profusely thank God for curing you.
Yeah... how many times do you hear of someone in a horrific accident...onlooker risks his life to save the victim, ambulance races to the sceen, they work on the victim all the way to the hospital to keep him alive.. victim raced into emergency surgery, surgeon-surgeons work for hrs to save victim... eventually the relations are told it's a miracle he survived.... All the relations go and give thanks to their particular breed of God..... how stupid is that. I know, I know... RL will give us undeniable evidence that it was this God thing that caused it all to happen.
tycoon wrote:jespah wrote:What is it, pray if you like, but go see the doctor about that cough anyway?
Yes, and then profusely thank God for curing you.
I'd consider it rude to not thank my doctor(s) and the rest of the medical team. Regardless of my religious beliefs, to not thank them is just a lack of common courtesy.
Phoenix32890 wrote:And then there are those who would believe that their god worked through the hands of the doctors. In cases like these, a belief that god has performed a "miracle" would not cause any harm, and I have no problem with those who derive comfort from that thought.
Through this presumably benign belief system you assert "would not cause any harm" the weight of unintended consequences can promote an anti-science anti-technology stance such as commonly found with many presumably benign religionist individuals and religionist organizations as per modern genetics.
Things are not what they might first appear.
Phoenix32890 wrote:And then there are those who would believe that their god worked through the hands of the doctors. In cases like these, a belief that god has performed a "miracle" would not cause any harm, and I have no problem with those who derive comfort from that thought.
Through this presumably benign belief system you assert "would not cause any harm" the weight of unintended consequences can promote an anti-science anti-technology stance such as commonly found with many presumably benign religionist individuals and religionist organizations as per modern genetics.
Things are not what they might first appear.
Finicky God's like an L on the end of HTM. :wink: Try the edited version below.
