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HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? Orders to cater to Creationists

 
 
Reply Sat 30 Dec, 2006 09:20 pm
You all won't believe this story......WOW!

And they say that atheists/agnostics are too sensitive about their religion...it seems they can't even stand a little geology lesson.




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HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON'T SAY ?- Orders to Cater to Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on Geology


Washington, DC ?- Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees. Despite promising a prompt review of its approval for a book claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood rather than by geologic forces, more than three years later no review has ever been done and the book remains on sale at the park, according to documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER).

"In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch. "It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is ?'no comment.'"

In a letter released today, PEER urged the new Director of the National Park Service (NPS), Mary Bomar, to end the stalling tactics, remove the book from sale at the park and allow park interpretive rangers to honestly answer questions from the public about the geologic age of the Grand Canyon. PEER is also asking Director Bomar to approve a pamphlet, suppressed since 2002 by Bush appointees, providing guidance for rangers and other interpretive staff in making distinctions between science and religion when speaking to park visitors about geologic issues.

In August 2003, Park Superintendent Joe Alston attempted to block the sale at park bookstores of Grand Canyon: A Different View by Tom Vail, a book claiming the Canyon developed on a biblical rather than an evolutionary time scale. NPS Headquarters, however, intervened and overruled Alston. To quiet the resulting furor, NPS Chief of Communications David Barna told reporters and members of Congress that there would be a high-level policy review of the issue.

According to a recent NPS response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by PEER, no such review was ever requested, let alone conducted or completed.

Park officials have defended the decision to approve the sale of Grand Canyon: A Different View, claiming that park bookstores are like libraries, where the broadest range of views are displayed. In fact, however, both law and park policies make it clear that the park bookstores are more like schoolrooms rather than libraries. As such, materials are only to reflect the highest quality science and are supposed to closely support approved interpretive themes. Moreover, unlike a library the approval process is very selective. Records released to PEER show that during 2003, Grand Canyon officials rejected 22 books and other products for bookstore placement while approving only one new sale item ?- the creationist book.

Ironically, in 2005, two years after the Grand Canyon creationist controversy erupted, NPS approved a new directive on "Interpretation and Education (Director's Order #6) which reinforces the posture that materials on the "history of the Earth must be based on the best scientific evidence available, as found in scholarly sources that have stood the test of scientific peer review and criticism [and] Interpretive and educational programs must refrain from appearing to endorse religious beliefs explaining natural processes."

"As one park geologist said, this is equivalent of Yellowstone National Park selling a book entitled Geysers of Old Faithful: Nostrils of Satan," Ruch added, pointing to the fact that previous NPS leadership ignored strong protests from both its own scientists and leading geological societies against the agency approval of the creationist book. "We sincerely hope that the new Director of the Park Service now has the autonomy to do her job."
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:15 am
Only in America.
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Diane
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:18 am
Sadly, LordE, that's all too true.
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:19 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:
Only in America.


Not studied history much?
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:25 am
real life wrote:
Lord Ellpus wrote:
Only in America.


Not studied history much?


Well, the history of the Grand Canyon would be confined only to America, would it not?
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 12:59 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:
real life wrote:
Lord Ellpus wrote:
Only in America.


Not studied history much?


Well, the history of the Grand Canyon would be confined only to America, would it not?


Yes, I suppose it would , if that's what you meant, Elp. You're right about that. Laughing

Hope you're having a great day.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 08:51 am
Re: HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? Orders to cater to Creation
maporsche wrote:
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HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON'T SAY ?- Orders to Cater to Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on Geology

Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees.

Is there no end to the damage this administration can do.

There are so many beautiful glacial remnants here in New England. When I was a kid, I just loved going to the State and National Parks and learning about the processes and events that formed the natural landscape. To think that kids now visiting something as spectacular as the Grand Canyon will have a basic understanding of the landscape denied to them, is tragic.

Or, "As one park geologist said, this is equivalent of Yellowstone National Park selling a book entitled Geysers of Old Faithful: Nostrils of Satan,"
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 09:42 am
The Creationists beleieve the GC was carved in a catastrophic event of water (can you say flood?). I always like to ask them , well ok, but how long did it take to lay down all the layers of metamorphics, volcanics and sediments through which this supposed catastrophic event occured?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 09:44 am
farmerman wrote:
The Creationists beleieve the GC was carved in a catastrophic event of water (can you say flood?). I always like to ask them , well ok, but how long did it take to lay down all the layers of metamorphics, volcanics and sediments through which this supposed catastrophic event occured?

Silly man, a billion years is just a second on the Rolex of god.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 09:46 am
billion years here, a billion years there. Pretty soon were talkin about some real time.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:04 am
They should have to present a third alternative for the edgarblythe's among us. I am certain it was dug by Paul Bunyon.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:04 am
Or Pecos Bill- -hmm. . .
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Diane
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 08:01 pm
Just think, Edgar, the gift shop would have even more T-Shirts to sell, especially if they claim to not know for sure if it was Paul Bunyon or Pecos Bill.
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