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Only one answer left on this riddle, can someone help please

 
 
TTH
 
Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 08:02 am
I have a list of 32 problems on a quiz. I have one left to go. I am not sure if my answer is right.
The question is:

1 = W in a U?

Is the answer: 1 = world in a universe?
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Reply Fri 29 Dec, 2006 11:21 am
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Reply Sat 30 Dec, 2006 02:14 am
Thank you.
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Reply Sat 30 Dec, 2006 04:58 pm
You are more than welcome…send half the prize to usual address! Laughing
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Reply Thu 4 Jan, 2007 09:29 pm
There is no prize for this quiz. I am only doing it because I like to. So, I guess I can send you 1/2 of 0. Is there such a thing? Wouldn't it still be 0?
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 08:04 am
Oh goody, one of my favourite subjects; zero! All or nothing:
How many numbers in mathematics symbolize an everything in the number world? Is there some place on the real number plane which symbolizes the sum or the whole of all numbers? Interestingly, the answer to this question is… no. As everyone knows, there is always a next greater number when counting and it isn't possible to count to a final largest number. There is just something different about the nature of the system of mathematics which makes it impossible for it to represent itself as a whole.

We could use the term positive infinity to refer to all the positive numbers combined together, but such a term would not actually represent a completed sum or combined whole. Since there is always a next greater number in this group there cannot be a single definite value. This positive infinity is more a representation of a never ending process; a series of numbers, and not a number itself. Of course the same is true of the infinity of negative numbers. Like the positive side, there isn't a unified sum of all the negative numbers.

But what if we combine together all the positive numbers with all the negative numbers? We can write this as an equation. At first it seems like if we try to sum all numbers into a single ultimate number; if we sum all the positive numbers with all negative numbers, then the total combination of all in question would sum up to zero, i.e.

(1 + (-1)) + (2 + (-2)) + (3 + (-3)) +... = 0 + 0 + 0 + ... = 0

Wouldn't that be strange if the sum of all numbers somehow equaled zero. We could then say that zero represents the everything of math, couldn't we. And that really wouldn't make sense, because the meaning of zero is very related to the word nothing.

The equation above makes it seem like zero is the sum total of all real numbers. There is always a negative value for every positive value, as shown above with integers. However, there is a problem with the consistency of this approach. It is possible to sum all numbers several different ways, and the sum does not always have the same answer. Several equations sum all real numbers yet each yields a different product. The two equations below add up all integers but as you can see, they have different sums:

(1 + 0) + (2 + (-1)) + (3 + (-2)) + (4 + (-3)) + ... = 1+ 1 + 1 + ...

next:

((- 1) + 0) + ((-2) + 1) + ((-3) + 2) + ((-4) + 3) + ... = (-1) + (-1) + (-1) + ...

These two equations, and the first equation that equals zero, each include all integers in the equation, yet we find three different solutions to the same equation. It is the same problem. In these equations we are summing definite things or values, which holds us in the realm of the finite, where a definite quantity of things is greater than zero things. The equations above sum a definite series of values, they don't sum the whole, and consequently it is said in mathematics that the sum of all real numbers is undefined. Which really kind of makes sense. Otherwise, zero would be a mathematical nothing and an everything simultaneously. So to be consistent, in ordinary math zero represents nothing and there is no ultimate number that represents all numbers, because math is the counting of definite things.

Zero cannot represent both nothing and everything in the same mathematical system of values. QED half of nothing is a quarter of nothing. 2 Cents
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2007 01:04 pm
It took you all that to say zero=0. It is a starting point. Rolling Eyes

Does that mean you can explain sex in less than 3,000,000,000,000, pages?
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