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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
georgeob1
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 01:39 pm
Francis wrote:
georgeob1 wrote:


But in it's own laws the "principle of presumed innocent" began back in the
l'article 35 bis de la loi du 29 juillet 1881 .


Francis Thanks for the update and the link. I was ignorant of these matters.

July 1881 -- that would be about one year after the start of the Third republic. I believe the President then was Marshal MacMahon - an Irishman! Clearly it is the native Celtic remnant, augmented by the occasional Irish expatriot, that are the true sources of the greatness of France!! :wink:
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Francis
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:03 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
July 1881 -- that would be about one year after the start of the Third republic. I believe the President then was Marshal MacMahon - an Irishman! Clearly it is the native Celtic remnant, augmented by the occasional Irish expatriot, that are the true sources of the greatness of France!! :wink:


Sometimes one's beliefs dont fit the reality ...

Mac Mahon was President in 1873-1879.

Here a link to Maréchal Mac MAHON
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:19 pm
You are correct - I missed the fall of the Second Empire by a decade, and the end of MacMahon's presidency by more than two years.

Still, it was a good try, and among friends, what is two years? .
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Francis
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:21 pm
On the other hand, I agree with you him doing a good job while president..
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:26 pm
Yes, and I see he was born in France.

Still, even an Irish name is an advantage.

You have stimulated me to read more about him.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:29 pm
Francis wrote:
On the other hand, I agree with you him doing a good job while president..


... not to forget the many rues/avenues Mac Mahon, which were named after this president :wink:

He was born, btw, in this nice "Irish cottage"

http://www.studiokoning.nl/Foto/Chateau_Sully_14072003_234.jpg
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Francis
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 02:35 pm
Laughing Laughing
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 03:02 pm
Walter, It's the lyric quality of the Irishness that does it. This was a thought that occurred to me while strolling down O'Higgins Boulevard in Santiago Chile.

On the other hand, the French have such pleasant-sounding names. At the Naval Academy we had to study the 17th and 18th century naval wars between Britain and France quite extensively, and I always found it somewhat sad that fortune so favored the British, whose Admirals had such guttural sounding names - Hawke, Jarvis, Howe, over the French who not only had better-built ships and gunnery, but Admirals with names like de Grasse, Sourcouf, Villeneuve, and others.
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georgeob1
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 03:06 pm
That was good, Walter !

I'll pay you for it later.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 03:24 pm
georgeob1 wrote:


I'll pay you for it later.


D'accord, mon commandant. :wink:
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Steve 41oo
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 03:37 pm
" I always found it somewhat sad that fortune so favored the British"

favoured. Get it right please.

perhaps Monsieur Nelson was bravoour and bettooor.
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Bram
 
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Tue 12 Apr, 2005 04:11 pm
Thanks Walter (Mr. Google) for your explanations. You sure you are not a lawyer? Laughing

This question is not "in the flow" of the above discussion, but I have a pressing curiosity ... How is the EU apparatus funded? Is there a special EU tax imposed on each citizen in the EU? How do the countries contribute their share (on what basis if the calculation made, e.g. on GDP, population number)? How much more will it cost to put the new EU constitution in place (i.e. with the added powers to be, etc.)?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 13 Apr, 2005 12:02 am
Bram wrote:
You sure you are not a lawyer? Laughing

Only studied law :wink:


Bram wrote:

How is the EU apparatus funded? Is there a special EU tax imposed on each citizen in the EU? How do the countries contribute their share (on what basis if the calculation made, e.g. on GDP, population number)? How much more will it cost to put the new EU constitution in place (i.e. with the added powers to be, etc.)?


The money comes from taxes of the various member states and the spending is controlled by the #Court of Auditeurs' (two instances).

EU budget

I don't think that the constitution will cost really more money (besides all the actual 'activities' now), but I'll try to look for that question later.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 13 Apr, 2005 08:13 am
Today, the European Parliament voted 497-93, with 71 abstentions, in favor of Romania's accession to the European Union and 522-70, with 69 abstentions, on Bulgaria's entry into the EU.

Quote:
EU backs Bulgaria and Romania bid

The European Parliament has voted to allow Bulgaria and Romania to join the European Union in 2007.
Their eventual membership still depends on both countries reforming areas such as farming and security, as well as making efforts to fight corruption.


The vote opens the way for an accession treaty to be signed later this month.

Some MEPs tried to postpone the vote until after the next European Commission report on the two countries' progress, which is due in November.

A disagreement over how much money is to be given to the countries was also resolved last minute, allowing for the vote to take place.

Romania and Bulgaria are both are poorer than all 25 existing EU member states.

The two Balkan countries missed the first round of EU expansion into Eastern Europe because they had failed to implement democratic and market reforms.

Opponents of the accession cited Romania's lack of press freedom as well as corruption as obstacles.

Bulgaria has been criticised for failing to adopt a new anti-corruption penal code and insufficient efforts in combating organised crime.

No guarantee

The European Commission report tracking the countries' preparation for membership will be published in November.

Romania is required to reform its justice and law enforcement, curb industrial state subsidies and improve environmental records.

It must also secure rights for its Roma minority.

Bulgaria's parliament speaker Borislav Velikov said he was "grateful to our colleagues in the European Parliament for their support for Bulgaria on its road toward the European Union".

The accession treaty does not absolutely guarantee the countries EU membership in 2007.

If either country fails to meet the agreed criteria, their accession could be postponed until 2008.

Source


EU press release
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Bram
 
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Wed 13 Apr, 2005 04:01 pm
"Favoured" yes, but "auditeurs"??

Got to check that fantastic link, Walter (thanks!), I wonder how they balance their budget.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 13 Apr, 2005 05:10 pm
When I visited the Balkans last year, our tour director is from Bulgaria. He was quite pleased with their bid into the EU, and mentioned it more than a few times during our trip.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 14 Apr, 2005 08:54 am
Quote:
EU Assembly Says Yes To Green Household Appliances

14/4/2005

STRASBOURG, France - The European Parliament on Wednesday endorsed rules to make household appliances more energy efficient, as part of its fight against global warming.
Under a voluntary agreement with industry, computers, stereo systems, washing machines, lights, air conditioning and boilers will all have to be designed with a focus on conserving energy.

The European executive Commission, author of the draft, says the new rules could save 180 million tonnes of carbon dioxide emissions by 2010, helping Europe meet ambitious climate change targets.

German conservative MEP Peter Liese said consumers would also save on electricity bills.

A household spends 100 euros a year on electricity for appliances that are turned off but not plugged out. Consumers pay an extra 400 euros a year in electricity bills for all energy inefficient devices at home.

"The directive will mean great progress for the protection of the environment in Europe and it will take the strain off the consumer because electricity and water bills will be reduced," Liese said in a statement.

The legislation will apply across the 25-nation bloc from 2007. The Commission will monitor industry's progress towards agreeing common standards. It can threaten to impose energy efficient criteria if firms fail to work together.

"The Commission will prepare studies on the improvements we need to make," EU Energy Commissioner Andris Piebalgs told a news conference. "By the second half of 2007, we should be able to adopt the first eco-design requirements for products."

But environmental organisation WWF said voluntary agreements with industry were ineffective to promote cleaner technology.

"This is the biggest loophole of the new law," WWF Head of European Climate and Energy Policy Unit Dr. Stephan Singer said in a statement.

"Voluntary agreements and the rejection of an independent verification on their implementation is nothing more than an incentive for producers to avoid making the required innovations and is bad for climate protection," he added.
Source
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georgeob1
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2005 06:52 pm
Interesting how the EU is increasingly becoming an authoritarian rule-making body, busily telling Europeans how to live and how their kitchen appliances and other like devices should be made. Even braqgging about it as though new rules necessarily make for a better world.


I prefer freedom.
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Mapleleaf
 
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Wed 20 Apr, 2005 08:39 pm
Walter,
I know the budget is expressed in Euros. Does 92.098 indicate 92 million Euros.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 21 Apr, 2005 12:29 am
Mapleleaf wrote:
Does 92.098 indicate 92 million Euros.


I can't find that number right now ...
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