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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2004 02:52 pm
au1929 wrote:
Does this come as any great surprise? The suprise would be if the nations of Europe could agree with each other. Do I hear a crack,crack,crack? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Well, here we are again, au:

Quote:


EU Split Over Sky Marshals
A U.S. government demand that foreign airlines put armed marshals on selected flights to and from the U.S. is putting European airlines opposed to the practice under pressure and creating yet another transatlantic row.

Ireland, which currently holds the EU's rotating presidency, has said it plans to hold a summit of EU aviation officials to resolve the crisis between Europe and the U.S. over the deployment of armed air marshals on certain transatlantic flights.

Several EU member states -- including Sweden, Denmark, and Portugal -- have said they oppose the new regulations, which are part of the U.S. government's tighter security precautions aimed to prevent a terrorist attack similar to that on Sept. 11, 2001.

Although Washington has not yet specified with what frequency and on what routes it expects airlines to have sky marshals on board, some European airlines say compliance will mean economic disadvantages. Georg Fongern of the international pilots' association IFALPA described the U.S. directive as "unaffordable." He said the measures will hinder the competitveness of European airlines, which unlike American airlines, won't be able to count on government support for the implementation of the measures and the cost of the seats taken up by air marshals.


Air marshals not new in Europe

Some European airlines, however, are taking the new U.S. directive in stride. The German carrier Lufthansa, for example, has been deploying air marshals on some flights since October 2001. Shortly after the Sept.11 terrorist attacks, Germany's Federal Border Guard assembled a troop of around 100 marshals to accompany randomly selected Lufthansa flights to North American destinations. So far the marshals have never had cause to intervene.


Switzerland, although not a member of the EU, has been using air marshals for over 30 years, with specially trained undercover police and army recruits boarding random international flights.


France, which up until the 2003 pre-Christmas period had never had armed guards on flights, has said it would put air marshals on flights to the U.S. if information from American or domestic intelligence showed it was necessary.


British pilots unhappy

The U.S. demands have created controversy in its traditional ally Britain, where government officials defended the additional security measures despite opposition from British pilots, who fear the presence of armed air marshals could create more danger on transatlantic flights.



"The thought that you have got people behind you in a pressurized cabin with guns and bullets is not a happy thought," said a spokesman for the British pilot's association, BALPA. "But if the government persists, we want certain conditions laid down."



The British pilots' union is now working on gaining concessions, such as the right for pilots to be informed when air marshals are on board, and an agreement that the flight captain should retain overall command. The union also wants assurances that pilots and crew be given the choice not to fly on planes that will be manned with air marshals.



British Airways has said it will accept the presence of air marshals, but charter company Thomas Cook Airlines, which is partly owned by Lufthansa, announced that it would rather ground its flights to the U.S. than have armed marshals on board.


German pilots' good experience

German pilots with experience of flying with air marshals on board have said they've overcome their initial mistrust of the situation. "I've so far only had positive experiences," said Capt. Markus Kirscheck from the pilots' association Cockpit, adding that good training is essential for good cooperation. He said German pilots work together with the trainers of air marshals in a simulator, so that both sides understand each other's jobs.

Still, IFALPA views the U.S. directive as an attack on the sovereignty of other states, and says there are other, less expensive ways to prevent an airplane from turning into a terrorist weapon. The security improvements to cockpit doors, and increased security measures in airports for example, mean air marshals can offer limited additional security, according to IFALPA's Georg Fongern. "We have to banish danger on the ground," he said. "Once you're in the air, it's too late."

DW staff (dc)
SOURCE

And sorry, au, that your favourites this time seem to be out of the line of fire - but you'll surely find a fly in the ointment. :wink:
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au1929
 
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Thu 8 Jan, 2004 04:02 pm
Walter
The self serving two faced perfidious SOB,s will never be out of the line of fire. Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
Happy Now!!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2004 01:26 pm
Quote:
Leftists agree to launch pan-European party

11 January 2004

Socialist and communist organizations from across Europe joined a call Sunday to launch a common European leftist party to fight for threatened social welfare systems and disarmament.

Representatives from 11 leftist organizations capped a two-day meeting in Berlin by signing a manifesto calling for the creation of a Party of the European Left, with a founding congress scheduled for April, said the head of the ex-communist Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS) in Germany, Lothar Bisky.

"We aim to create a new Europe," said the chairman of the Italian communist party PRC, Fausto Bertinotti.

"The Europe of the Party of the European Left is against war and neo-liberal policies."

Bisky admitted there were still deep divisions between the parties that hoped to join under one umbrella but said there were "no differences that cannot be bridged".

Eight parties who participated in the gathering opted not to sign on but said they would join the continuing process as "observers".

Although the new party would not be able to present candidates in the elections for the European Parliament in June, it hopes to raise the profile of member parties during the campaign with the birth of the new alliance.

Signatories of the manifesto included leftist parties and other organizations from Austria, the Czech Republic and some of its regions, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Slovakia as well as Spain.

source
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nimh
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2004 04:49 pm
The Green parties also started work on a unified European Green party last year.

The initial attempt stalled because of the Europhile/Europhobe divide among them: a minority made up of the British and Scandinavian Green parties are against the EU (and are also more radical). Talk is now of working first towards an opt-in unified Green party in, say, a 'core Europe'.

I would really like a list of which parties are involved in that "Party of the European Left", but there's no mention of them on the PDS site!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2004 04:55 pm
Neither on any German news - they just mentioned it.

However, we still have the old new "Neues Deutschland":
Eurolinke schuf Basis für gemeinsame Partei
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nimh
 
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Sun 11 Jan, 2004 07:38 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
However, we still have the old new "Neues Deutschland":
Eurolinke schuf Basis für gemeinsame Partei


Ah! Of course, Neues Deutschland. Heh.

I'd started to wonder cause the websites of the French and Slovak communist parties had nothing on the topic either.

So, here's the list then, according to ND, with what I know about them and their latest national election result.
One thing, in any case, it makes me wonder about - if these are the parties the PDS wants to "merge" with - that means, I guess, that we can safely assume that Gysi's project to "modernize" the PDS is dead and buried?

With the exception of the Greek choice of partner, it's practically like the old Komintern has revived - except weaker ...

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- Estonian Socialdemocratic Workers Party - n/a
(mostly the party of the nostalgics among the Russian minority. A powerful player in the early 90s, it has since submerged into the Russian-minority "United People's Party", which in turn dropped from 6% to 2% in the last elections)

- French Communist Party - 4,8% (2002)
(once mighty, still relatively unreformed, saw most of its voters defect to the mainstream socialists or the insurgent Trotskyites)

- Synaspismos (Coalition of the Left and Progress), Greece - 3,2% (2000)
(a small, left-wing party thats slightly more open & progressive than the larger, stale Communist party there)

- Refounded Communists, Italy - 5,0% (2001)
(founded in rebellion against how the original, mighty Italian Communist Party renamed and reshaped itself as a socialdemocratic "Democratic Left")

- The Left, Luxemburg - 3,8% (1999)
(havent got a clue)

- Communist Party, Austria - 0,6% (2002)
(one of the last Communist parties to go through destalinisation, only just in time to have to grapple with post-89 realities)

- Slovak Communist Party - 6,3% (2002)
(when after '89 the state communist party reformed itself into the Party of the Democratic Left, which succeeded in keeping some 10-15% of the vote throughout the 90s, those who didnt like the socialdemocratisation involved joined the militant, unreformed SCP. The SCP finally made it over the 5% threshhold last year, after the PDL folded.)

- United Left, Spain - 5,5% (2000)
(union of various left-of-the-socialdemocrats parties, including the Greens but dominated by the Communists.)

- Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia - 18,5% (2002)
(The Czech Republic was the only country in post-89 Central Europe where the communist party did not rename and reform itself into some postcommunist/socialdemocratic hybrid; the CPBM has been unrepentant throughout. Until its win last year, its also polled 10-15% throughout, with every "reformist" split-off dissappearing into electoral insignificance - which, unique in Eastern Europe, allowed a bigger, authentically Socialdemocratic party to flourish in the mainstream.)

- Party of Democratic Socialism, Czech Republic - n/a
(Don't know. Could be one of those reformist split-offs.)

- The (German) Party of Democratic Socialism, itself - 4,3% (2002)
(Reunification and the way it "imported" the dominance of the two main German parties confronted the PDS with an impossibility to do what other ex-communists did: socialdemocratise and claim a dominant stake in the new system. Reformers Gysi and Bisky did their best to make the PDS an all-German party of radical, modern activists, instead; they failed, however, and the PDS remained mostly an East-German party of nostalgics.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 12 Jan, 2004 01:24 am
The way you see this, nimh, is exactly my view.

Thanks for the explanations (and translation/transforming) about that article - it was really too late for me to start that :wink:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 14 Jan, 2004 01:24 pm
Quote:
EU Commission protects nearly 1,000 nature sites

BRUSSELS, Jan 14 (Reuters) - The European Commission placed nearly one thousand nature sites in Europe's mountains on a special protection list on Wednesday to save endangered animal species and plants from extinction.

The EU executive Commission wants to stop the disappearance of the brown bear, yellow lady's slipper orchid and mountain hay meadows from alpine regions across Europe.

Approximately 37 percent of mountainous areas in Austria, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Sweden will be covered by stricter rules to limit environmental pollution and habitat destruction.

"Only by working together at EU level can we maximise the protection for our most valuable species and habitats," EU Environment Commissioner Margot Wallstrom said in a statement.

The seven EU member states now have to establish the nature sites in the Alps, Pyrenees, Apennines and part of the Fennoscandian mountain region in Finland and Sweden as protected zones in their national legislation.

Copyright 2004, Reuters News Service
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au1929
 
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Wed 14 Jan, 2004 01:38 pm
15 countries in EU are sued over euro

STRASBOURG - The decision pits the European Commission against the countries it is meant to serve and sends the Union into uncharted legal territory.




http://www.iht.com/articles/124850.htm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 14 Jan, 2004 01:52 pm
Not the EU-countries, but their governments (here: finance ministers) are sued.
And it's not about the Euro, but about the Euro rules.

Quote:
Brussels decision to take legal action splits EU[/size]

Are the euro rules going up in smoke?

EUOBSERVER / STRASBOURG - The European Commission today decided to launch unprecedented legal action against member states over their effective suspension of the euro rules last November.

Announcing the decision to journalists during the European Parliament's session in Strasbourg, the spokesman for Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Pedro Solbes said that the controversial move was made after a "long and comprehensive debate".

There was no vote on the issue, as some had expected, although the spokesman confirmed "this does not mean that there was unanimity".

The Commission will now ask the European Court of Justice to rule on a procedure taken by finance ministers last November to avoid disciplinary action being taken against France and Germany for their persistent breaking of the rules underpinning the euro. Brussels believes the procedure was "not appropriate" and has received legal advice confirming this.

The spokesman also confirmed that the Court would be asked to "fast-track" the case, which would mean the issue is resolved in 3 to 6 months rather than one or two years. But it is up to the court to decide whether to grant this.

High risk, high reward
This highly controversial issue has provoked strong - and diverging - reaction across the EU.

The Commission itself was thought to be highly divided during the debate, with commissioners from the bigger countries in favour of letting the case drop and officials from smaller states wanting to push ahead.

Brussels finds itself in an unfortunate no-win situation. If it had decided not to launch legal action, its authority would have suffered, but its decision to go ahead in the courts is likely further to damage relations between the Commission and member states.

This catch-22 dilemma was highlighted by the leader of the Liberals in the European Parliament Graham Watson, who described the move as a "high risk, high reward strategy". He nevertheless welcomed the announcement saying, "Not taking legal action would mean tacitly accepting the decision of ministers to forget their responsibilities and throw out the rule book".

The Parliament's largest political group, the European People's Party, also welcomed the action as it showed that "the Commission cannot be blackmailed".

But the leader of the Greens, Daniel Cohn-Bendit described the action as "mere folly", adding, "it won't take us anywhere".

Co-operation, not confrontation
This latter view was, not surprisingly, shared by German finance minister Hans Eichel. Alluding to the many controversial issues on the EU plate, Mr Eichel said, "considering the tasks before the European Union in the near future, it would be more helpful to have co-operation rather than confrontation".

Unexpectedly, he was backed by Austrian Finance Minister Karl-Heinz Grasser. Mr Grasser was one of the most outspoken critics of the ministers' decision to suspend the disciplinary procedure but he said, "I am not in favour of a lawsuit by the Commission ... simply because I think it is the wrong political instrument".

But the other main critic, Dutch finance minister Gerrit Zalm said on Dutch television that he was "very happy" with the decision.

The current President of the Council of finance ministers - the object of the complaint - reacted coolly. Irish finance minister Charlie McCreevey said that he "noted" the decision and that it was a "matter for the Commission".

Businesses condemn
Trades unions and business groups were unusually united in condemning the action. In a letter addressed to Commissioner Solbes before the decision was taken, the Secretary-General of the European Trades Union Confederation, John Monks said, "legal action of the kind envisaged can only make a bad situation worse".

His view was echoed by the Secretary-General of business group eurochambres, Arnaldo Abruzzini, who said, "We think a legal decision is not appropriate to combat this problem which has a vast political dimension".

Next steps
The Commission will now debate ways of modifying the rules that have caused so much trouble recently.

A report due in February will outline possible reforms which may include taking greater account of the economic cycle when measuring deficits and placing greater emphasis on public debt.

Meanwhile, the Commission will carry out its task of economic surveillance of member states.
Written by Richard Carter
EU-Observer


link to yesterday's official EU PRESS RELEASE
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JamesMorrison
 
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Wed 14 Jan, 2004 06:28 pm
Walter's last post sharing the text of "Brussels decision to take legal action splits EU" in the EUOBSERVER is telling. These events call into question the original EU agreement and, therefore, the practical reality that must be dealt with despite the much desired EU goal of a Platonic relationship between EU members. Naturally, this calls into question the wisdom of the original rule calling for national fiscal responsibility.

What to do? Not enforcing the agreement implicitly voids the agreement. Enforcing the agreement against member states that run said proscribed deficits is problematic on two fronts. First it would force two of the EU's most powerful members (France and Germany) to appear, at best, delinquent. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly: are we to understand that those nations financially strapped will be possibly subjected to the additional financial burden of substantial fines based upon a percentage of their deficit thereby further adding to their woe's? Is Financial Minister debtor's prison far behind?

Granting further temporary fiduciary reprieves gives the appearance of France and Germany being special cases. How are other EU members to tolerate this? The main problem with the EU rule in question is this: It demands single-minded rigid national financial responsibility but seems to deny that nation's right to deal with its own economy with the requisite tools needed as that nation sees fit. Sometimes tax cuts and governmental spending are prescribed to weather financial storms even if national deficits result.

A bit of a sticky wicket, what?

JM
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Ning
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 09:06 am
"Blair: I'll take Britain into euro by 2007"

He doesn't only smoke cigarette :wink:
The more I travel in UK, the more I think they will never say "yes".
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 09:13 am
Hmmm. Not exactly my impression - but obviously I always meet the 'wrong' persons, like pro-EURO Labour members, MP's and a Minister from the Foreign Office, who leads the Labour "pro-Europe"- committee Laughing
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Ning
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 09:17 am
Quote:

UK set to join Franco-German 'motor'

London looks set to join Paris and Berlin for a 3-way motor of the EU (Photo: EU Commission)
UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw wants Britain to link up with France and Germany in order to strengthen the 'motor' driving an enlarged EU.

In an interview with French daily Le Figaro, Mr Straw said, "Associating the UK with the Franco-German motor seems logical as Europe passes from 15 to 25 members". He also hinted that, whilst France and Germany could provide leadership for a union of 15, they would need more power to lead an enlarged EU, which the UK could provide.

London's move to form a more concrete 'big three' at the heart of the EU may concern smaller EU states and some future member states because of worries that the union will become a 'directorate' led by the UK, France and Germany.

Many in France and Germany may also question whether the UK is ready for such a leadership role given, amongst other things, its reluctance to join the euro.

Enhanced co-operation at work
But Mr Straw's statement comes after several signs that the three powerful EU states are working more closely together.

London backed Paris and Berlin over the euro rules row and broadly followed the Franco-German line during the failed negotiations on the new EU Constitution.

More concretely, the big three led a successful diplomatic mission to Iran in an effort to stop its suspected nuclear weapons programme - sidestepping the EU's diplomatic chief Javier Solana.

Mr Straw said, "The EU's foreign policy is written on a piece of paper. Our mission to Iran gave substance to it".

In another sign of growing co-operation, Messers Chirac, Schröder and Blair - the leaders of France, Germany and Britain respectively - will meet next month to discuss ways of thrashing out the Constitution and other EU matters.

Europe needs America
In an effort to draw a line under past disagreements over foreign policy - notably during the Iraq crisis, Mr Straw said that "the past is the past. What interests me now is that the situation in Iraq is improving".

However, in comments that may find less support in Paris or Berlin, he also emphasised, "Europe needs to work with the US because Europe on its own can do nothing. It's useless to pretend anything else".

He also stressed the role of member states in formulating foreign policy, saying, "It is simply not possible that Europe's foreign policy can be done only by the EU. There will always be a double action: that of the member states and that of the union ... our governments will never give up the final decision because at the root of it all is our defence".


http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?sid=9&aid=14106
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Ning
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 09:21 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Hmmm. Not exactly my impression - but obviously I always meet the 'wrong' persons, like pro-EURO Labour members, MP's and a Minister from the Foreign Office, who leads the Labour "pro-Europe"- committee Laughing


"pro-Europe" doesn't mean "pro-Euro" (according to most of british Rolling Eyes )
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 09:42 am
Right. But those I know are definately pro-EURO as well.
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Ning
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 10:09 am
how many pro-Euro are there in the UK ? Any idea ? I can't find recent figures.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2004 10:36 am
Ning wrote:
how many pro-Euro are there in the UK ? Any idea ? I can't find recent figures.
As far as I could check that, only The Times gave some figures lately - and that's to be seen only by (paid) subscription Crying or Very sad

Interesting this here: Nissan 'pullout' fires euro debate
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 19 Jan, 2004 02:02 am
From today's Independent:
Quote:
Saturday's marches against the law banning headscarves in schools attracted fewer people than the organisers had predicted; about 10,000 in Paris and 20,000 across the country. The marchers were all women and almost all the stewards were men.

The marches had been organised by a radical Islamic organisation, the Parti Musulman de France, which has been accused of making anti-semitic statements in the past. More moderate Muslim organisations, including a women's group that opposes the wearing of headscarves, said the marchers were unrepresentative of followers of Islam.



The above is an article, called

French far right blamed for attack on Muslim official
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Steve 41oo
 
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Mon 19 Jan, 2004 06:18 am
Ning

Britain will join the euro but not yet. We should have been in it from the outset in my opinion. But that chance was lost (if it ever existed) and now it doesn't really matter if we join in 2 5 or 10 years time. The pro euro lobby is finding it difficult at the moment, but it has some heavyweights on board including Blair and Walter Hinteler (!) But finance minister Brown is against (certainly at the moment) and his power is rising as Blair is seen as damaged by Iraq etc.

If you ask people if they are in favour of the euro, most people say no. But if you ask them if they think it inevitable Britain will join, most people say yes.

http://www.mori.com/polls/2003/mpm030622-top.shtml

The problem is Blair has promised a referendum before we join. He's not going to hold the referendum if he thinks it will be lost, which it would be at the moment. So Blair is content to let Brown say he is in favour in principle but the economic circumstances are not yet right, and as its only Brown who can judge this, he can go on saying it as long as he wants.


It is of course a complete sham. Its not just an economic decision but political too. And my understanding of Brown's "5 economic tests" is that Britain passes all 5, certainly better than some other countries when they went into the euro.

But the thing that really worries me is the influence of the USA. For all their warm words about the EU, I think a lot of powerful people (who seem to own most of the serious newspapers here) want to keep Britain out of the euro. If Britain joined the euro, the jigsaw would be complete. The euro would challenge the dollar as the world reserve currency, and I dont think the Americans want that.
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