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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 06:16 am
By the way:

The Independent and the Telegraph witnessed two very different displays from Tony Blair addressing the European parliament yesterday. The Independent saw a robust performance "sweeping aside" calls for higher EU budgets and "deriding Eurosceptic critics".

In a "verbal assault", Mr Blair told Ukip MEPs: "You sit with our country's flag, but you do not represent our interests. This is 2005, not 1945. We are not fighting each other any more. They are our colleagues and partners and our future lies in Europe."

The Telegraph's reporter was at a different event at the same time in the same room. "An astonishing display of finger-jabbing anger [...] Time and again, the prime minister allowed his exasperation to show. As condemnation rained down from left and right ... "

:wink:
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 06:24 am
The sad fact is, Walter, that Blair is a babe in arms when it comes to negotiating with the EU.
He should take some lessons from Chirac, who has been quietly bleeding it dry for years.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 06:29 am
Mmm, that's propbably the most common English view.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:36 am
.....well, you only have to look at how much they "net" contribute.

It's not only the English (Brits, really) that are being made to look silly. We tend to get the ridicule though, as we tend to be the only one's to confront him.
We inevitably lose, because like I said, he's one hell of a politician.

Shame nobody else dares to take him on though.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:08 am
Well, and additionally, as I read in today's Daily Express (on the frontpage, besides the naked knee of Rachel Hunts):Brussels plans to raid wages, and thus Britons will be forced to pay a crippling European Union tax under a shock plan which was revealed yesterday. [Couldn't find anything more about it in other publications/media, though.]

Quote:
source: Daily Express, print version, pages 1, 2


And the Daily Express' comments reads like this:

Quote:
Tax to Brussels plan must be quashed immediately
SO THE truth is finally out. There was a time when critics of the European Union were concerned that Brussels would try to obtain British taxpayers' money by stealth. As we now learn, there is no longer any fear of that.


No, the European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso is quite open about the EU's future plans. Britons should pay a European Union tax directly to Brussels, he says, without it having to go through the meddlesome British Government. The tax would be the equivalent of 3.5p in the pound and it also has the backing of a host of senior EU figures.


This proposal must be quashed immediately before it is too late. The Prime Minister is clearly incapable of looking after our interests when it comes to the EU - his capitulation over the British rebate proves that - but even he and his lickspittle Government must stand up for their country over this.


Paying a federal tax to Brussels would not only end British sovereignty and sideline the British Parliament - it would also give the EU bureaucrats a charter to fritter away your money. And make no mistake, whatever tax was first levied would rocket shortly afterwards, only to be thrown away with all the other billions of pounds of European waste.


We are already saddled with a tax-andspend Government. The very last thing we need is an even closer alliance to a tax-and- squander Europe.

Daily Express, page 12.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:18 am
If this tax goes through (VERY doubtful), maybe we will see bigger troughs being installed in Brussels, eh Walter?

What's this in aid of, I wonder....

The price of truffels has shot through the roof, thereby having a knockon effect on MEP's hospitality lunches?

Maybe the farmers would like to change their Mercs on an annual basis, as opposed to the biannual arrangement that is in force at the moment?

Maybe they want to build yet another Parliament building, somewhere near a ski resort perhaps?


I KNOW!!!......Chirac's due for retirement soon, and they want to buy him a pressy!
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nimh
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:43 am
So ... henceforth, dont let anyone dare belittle the infuence of tabloid newspapers anymore by saying, "oh that stuff, you know that no intelligent person actually believes what they write, what are you getting worked up about?"
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:45 am
Well, IMHO this 'tax' is an invention by the Express - one of the "leading pro- European and pro-German, pro-French etc" papers.

I might be wrong.

However, if Schüsseö said something, The Express was the first and only to have heard him since weeks: "the silent chancellor" ('Der große Schweiger', the big silent person literally translated), as he is called in Austria.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:47 am
I'm not getting worked up, Nimh. It was a little try at humour with Walter.
(it obviously got through under your Radar)

Personally, I tend to save the Daily Express for when we've run out of toilet roll.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 09:07 am
More than 40 years back, my guest parents didn't allow me to read the Express (nor the News of the World or Daily Mail as well).
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Steve 41oo
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 02:36 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
... ('Der große Schweiger', the big silent person literally translated), as he is called in Austria.


And the Austrians are going to strip Arnie of his citizenship for murdering Tookie.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 02:40 pm
Actually, Arnie gave back already his honourary citizenship ring from the city of Graz, forbid them to use his name in connection with their main stadium (the letters "Anold S. stadium' have to be removed until next week) ....
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georgeob1
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 02:47 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

And the Austrians are going to strip Arnie of his citizenship for murdering Tookie.


"murdering" ????????
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 02:51 pm
Headline in the regional paper of today reads:

'Graz pleads for mercy"

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/4927/clipboard15yb.jpg
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Steve 41oo
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 03:03 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

And the Austrians are going to strip Arnie of his citizenship for murdering Tookie.


"murdering" ????????
Yes I thought he chopped him to bits with a chain saw...or am I thinking of someone else.

Of course I know he didnt murder mr Tookie. He just signed the piece of paper that killed him. By accident.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 03:05 pm
Walter excuse my lack of German language but Schwarzenegger means Black...what?
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 03:16 pm
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Walter excuse my lack of German language but Schwarzenegger means Black...what?


I've just googled, and it came up with the "n" word.

Interesting. I hope I'm wrong.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 03:20 pm
No idea, Steve - 'the peron from the black corner' or something like that, I suppose.

(In Low German it would be 'eggs' [plural, "Eier"], but I doubt that such is similar in South German/Austrian, where the ending ...-egger isn't seldom.)
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 03:24 pm
I have an Eisenegger T shirt.

Does that indicate that I have frozen eggs?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 21 Dec, 2005 03:26 pm
No, iron eggs. Which I believe to be true.
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