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FOLLOWING THE EUROPEAN UNION

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 03:43 pm
The whole of the EU countires has less than 1,000 illegals? WOW!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 03:54 pm
You got this number from where, c.i.?
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 04:01 pm
1000 per City, more like.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 04:14 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Since somebody already touched on the EU and US donations to Africa, I thought the following BBC article is pertinent. It was sent to me by a doctor in Tanzania.

Ghana 'robbed' of medics by UK
By Lucy Ash
BBC Five Live Report


Britain has a newly expanded health service but patients from the world's poorest continent are paying the price.






Korle Bu is Ghana's biggest hospital on the outskirts of the capital Accra.

As Nurse Sylvia Osei walks past the drab concrete walls of the children's emergency unit, she hears some unwelcome news.


It is new form of colonisation.
Sylvia Osei, Ghanaian nurse .....etc.


This is a very difficult situation. Britain has increased the wages for Nurses and Doctors over recent years, to stop our own staff from leaving the profession, and to encourage new people into nursing etc.

By raising the wage, this has made the profession more attractive for Nurses from overseas.

If Britain accepted Nurses from, for example, Australia and New Zealand, but refused applicants from Tanzania, it would run the risk of being branded as racist.

Many Nurses from the Phillipines work in the USA for the same economic reasons, and there is a shortage of Nurses in the Phillipines because of it.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but to say that it is "Colonialism" is a bit harsh, unless there is an active recruitment drive over there, which would be morally wrong.

Maybe, as a large part of the proposed increase in aid is targeted at Africa's health systems, some of the money could be spent raising their pay, so that Nursing in Africa becomes a highly desirable occupation.

Like I say, a difficult situation.......
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 04:34 pm
Lord Ellpus, On my recent visit to Malta, we met a nurse who now works in London, but her home is Australia. We also learned while in Malta that doctors trained in Malta leave for other countries to practice, because of higher pay. Malta provides its citizens with free university training, so Malta also suffers from a brain-drain. As you say, there are no easy answers or solutions.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 04:45 pm
Nimh quoted member of EU commission for finance Dalia Grybauskaitė, as saying.......

"Any European discussion on reforms is a long process ... If the goal is to restore the damaged image at home by fashionable discussion on reform, if we will see that by December, I can evaluate it as an example of irresponsible ... populism," she said, but declined to blame Blair directly.

What?? Damaged image at home?? What is this woman rambling on about? Total and utter B*llocks.

Blair refused to let the awful Chirac deflect the "non" debacle, by Chirac diverting everyone's attention onto Britains rebate.
Blair was ready for him, and called his bluff by linking the reduction of the rebate with a complete overhaul of the CAP system, which is basically a charitable foundation set up for the French.
AND BLAIR STOOD HIS GROUND.....and is continuing to try to get a long overdue reform.

Have we noticed a "damaged image at home" being endured by anyone other than Chirac?

Blair is not experiencing any "image" problem.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Tue 5 Jul, 2005 05:02 pm
...and THIS is one of the reasons why I get so "emotional" when I see that pompous prig trying to hijack the EU with his expert manipulations.

Only the tip of his personal Iceberg, IMO, and no other Western Democracy would stand for it.................


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1448471.stm
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jul, 2005 05:59 pm
You know, success breeds monsters - no matter how it's earned.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jul, 2005 06:00 pm
I'm ready to trade Bush for Chirac. Wink
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nimh
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 01:08 am
Lord Ellpus, you dont think Blair was suffering from a damaged image in Britain, prior to this EU frackas?

I've followed the British elections the other month quite closely, and both during the campaign and after the result the description of Blair as "damaged goods" was pretty much standard fare, way I remember it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 09:11 am
nimh, I remember it the same way. As a matter of fact, Steve4100 said Blair will be elected, but will resign shortly thereafter.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 10:12 am
Nimh, I was referring to his standing in Britain, regarding European affairs. He had no "Image problem" in Europe (unlike Chirac)

Blair had lost popularity here because he had latched onto Bush's coat tails re. Iraq., but as far as DOMESTIC policies were concerned, Blair was recognised as doing a pretty good job. The economy is reasonably strong, and unemployment low. If Iraq hadnt clouded the issue, Blair would have been returned with a much larger majority than he eventually ended up with.

Chirac, on the other hand, was pushing ahead at full speed with the idea of a Constitution, and put it to his people, expecting them to all follow along.
A "NON" was the result, making Chirac look bad, not only in Europe, but at home.
He immediately went onto the offensive, in a classic political diversionary move, by demanding that Britain should lose its rebate.

So, it is CHIRAC that has raised this whole issue of budgets, leading Blair to agree on entering into negotiations regarding the rebate, as long as it it tied in with a complete overhaul of the CAP, which is blatantly unfair, and VERY much favours France, and why the rebate (fully agreed by the EU) was put in place in the first instance.

Blair is now getting the flak, for something that Chirac stirred up, in order to cover his failure re. the "NON" vote.

Chirac is a devious bugger, and it seems his tactics are working.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 10:16 am
Chirac is no more devious the Bush; Bush is the master.
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nimh
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 10:48 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:
Nimh, I was referring to his standing in Britain, regarding European affairs. He had no "Image problem" in Europe (unlike Chirac)

Blair had lost popularity here because he had latched onto Bush's coat tails re. Iraq., but as far as DOMESTIC policies were concerned, Blair was recognised as doing a pretty good job. The economy is reasonably strong, and unemployment low.

Hhm, I came away with a very different impression from the British election coverage (and like I said, I did follow it pretty intensively). Yes, the economy is going well, but it was Brown who was widely credited for that, it didn't shine off on Blair. In fact, Blair's personal popularity ratings were the pits, and voter after voter was interviewed saying they would vote Labour in spite of, rather than thanks to Blair.

Iraq had a lot to do with that, sure, of course. But so did the spin stuff in general, the whole image/vanity/Campbell thing, the total lack of personal trust and sympathy. Anyway, whichever the reason, I'd say all the election-period descriptions of Blair's personal impopularity all in all suggested a "damaged image at home" for sure, and that's all the Lithuanian EU Commissioner said.

After all, you may have been "referring to [Blair's] standing in Britain, regarding European affairs", but Grybauskaitė wasn't. So before we launch another discussion on Blair versus Chirac, this was the remark you found so offensive ("rambling", "total and utter bolocks"):

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Any European discussion on reforms is a long process ... If the goal is to restore the damaged image at home by fashionable discussion on reform, if we will see that by December, I can evaluate it as an example of irresponsible ... populism

Now the way I read that, it says no more than that Blair may have demonstratively tried to kickstart the reform discussion the way he did primarily to improve his image at home. His image at home, generally, period. And Grybauskaitė seems to be implying that, if that was his primary motivation, that would explain the demonstrative, almost insultive aplomb of the way he did it - which in fact is probably highly counterproductive when it comes to actually bringing reform along, but must surely have been good for his personal popularity ratings (as your reactions for one seem to suggest).

If that is indeed how it ends, with Blair's arrogant way of going about this thing boosting his ratings at home but actually making the solution of reform issues at the EU negotiation tables harder, then it will indeed have been an exercise in irresponsible populism.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 12:34 pm
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English
will be the official language of the European nation rather than German
which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that
English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year
phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will
make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in
favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan
have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the
troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words
like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted
to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have
always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the
horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should
go away.

By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining
"ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu
understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop
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Steve 41oo
 
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Wed 6 Jul, 2005 04:59 pm
hey ci

ever thought of running for member European parliament or even President?

you have the credentials
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 7 Jul, 2005 11:40 pm
Quote:
Published Thursday, July 7, 2005

Romanian Cabinet to Resign After Ruling

By ALEXANDRU ALEXE
Associated Press Writer

BUCHAREST, Romania
Romania's Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu said Thursday his Cabinet would resign and early elections would be called after a court blocked essential justice reforms required by the European Union.

The Constitutional Court's ruling on Wednesday delays critical justice reforms that were requested by the European Union, which Romania wants to join in 2007.

The EU has warned Romania that its admission to the bloc would be delayed by a year if it fails to reform its inefficient justice system and enforce antitrust rules.

Tariceanu met Thursday with President Traian Basescu to discuss the situation. He later announced his resignation and said that legal procedures to hold new elections would be started.

"The blocking of the justice reforms means we have no chance to get a good report from the European Union that would allow us to join in 2007," Tariceanu said later on television.

He said new elections were needed to get a stronger majority that would pass the justice reforms.

"People can vote on whether they want to keep this dirty (justice) system, with a Constitutional Court dominated by the former ruling (Social Democratic) Party."

Parliament can overturn the court's decision with a two-thirds majority, but the ruling coalition lacks the majority necessary to overturn the court's ruling.

The court, which is packed with people who are close to former president Ion Iliescu and former Social Democratic Party lawmakers, declared certain parts of the justice laws to be unconstitutional.

The judges struck down passages which provided for competition for judicial appointments and a mandatory retirement age for judges.

Justice Minister Monica Macovei said those measures were necessary to provide for competent judges and an end to political influence on the courts.

The EU commission said Romania would have to make continuous progress to be able to join in 2007, and that Romania needed to have an "independent, impartial and efficient" justice system. The commission added that it would study the court's ruling.
Source
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 12:13 pm
Despite earlier indications that it would be approved, observers now aren't sure which way Luxembourg will vote on the EU Constitution this Sunday:

Quote:
Tight referendum expected in Luxembourg

08.07.2005 - 17:32 CET |

By Elitsa Vucheva EUOBSERVER / LUXEMBOURG - Luxembourg seems to be undecided as to how to vote on the EU constitution three days before its referendum on Sunday (10 July), despite being known as a strongly pro-European country.

All political parties represented in the Chamber of Deputies but one (the ADR party) support the treaty, but the population in the Grand Duchy is divided.

"I would like to vote 'undecided', because you're damned either way [with or without the EU constitution]. But if I have to chose, it's no", 18-year-old Caroline told EUobserver in a straw poll held on Thursday.

"I think that each country should decide on its rules on its own", she added.

"It is not such a bad document, and I think Europe needs it right now", argued 32-year-old Sebastien, who plans to vote yes, however.

Parliament versus people power
Christian Schaack, secretary of the ADR group said the division among citizens reflects the fact that "politicians have a different vision of that of the people".

Luxembourg's parliament ratified the constitution in its first reading on 28 June with second reading expected three months later. But the deputies have committed themselves to respecting the referendum's result and the parliamentary procedure will halt in the case of a no.

"Why vote on the constitution two weeks before the referendum then? The only objective of the vote was to influence the people", Mr Schaack added.

According to him, "the government does not leave a choice to Luxembourg's citizens, it makes an exclusively yes-axed campaign".

Blackmailing or political courage?
On top of criticising the government's campaign, the ADR's secretary also disapproves of prime minister Jean-Claude Juncker's announcement that he would resign if Luxembourgers rejected the constitution.

"It is not a vote on him as a person, it is a vote on a European text", Mr Schaack said.

"I know that there are people who are against the text, but who will vote yes anyway just because of him, because they like Mr Juncker and do not want him to resign", he added.

Yves Cruchten, vice-president of the socialist party in Luxembourg (LSAP), does not see things Mr Schaak's way however.

"Mr Juncker said that he regretted that some people had interpreted his decision as political blackmailing, which it is not. He said that it would be very difficult for him to continue his work, if he does not have his people's support. I think it is very honest of him", Mr Cruchten said.

And Mr Cruchten's words were reflected by 49-year-old Viviane, who intends to vote no.

"I am aware of Mr Juncker's decision, but I will vote no anyway. I think he has made many great things for Luxembourg and Europe, and I have nothing against him. But this is not about him", she said.

"I will vote no for social reasons, because I think this document is not good for Luxembourg. It will provoke a flood of eastern Europeans to the EU, and unemployment will rise even more", she added.

No on the increase, but yes back in the game
Under Luxembourgish law, official polls cannot be conducted four weeks before a referendum.

The last survey in mid-June had put the opposition to the EU constitution at 45 percent, compared to around 30 percent a few months ago.

Both ADR and LSAP representatives believe this was related to the French and Dutch no on 29 May and 1 June respectively.

But the yes camp indicates it has stronger support after the failure of EU leaders to agree on the bloc's budget last June.

"People saw that rejecting the constitution did not bring anything good and did not solve any problems. At least the yes is a clear signal", Mr Cruchten pointed out.

A yes from Luxembourg would give a new impulse to Europe, and will send a very positive message to all EU leaders, he said.

On the other hand, a rejection from the Grand Duchy, a founding EU member, would mean that the treaty "is not only dead, it is buried".

The result is expected to be tight, with a yes "between 50 and 60 percent", or "around 53 percent", very possible, the ADR and LSAP representatives indicated.

Polls in Luxembourg will open at 08:00 CET on Sunday, and close at 14:00 CET. The first results will be known shortly after closing.

The referendum in the Grand Duchy is compulsory for the 220,000 people or so eligible to vote there.
Source
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cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 8 Jul, 2005 12:26 pm
I wonder why the other countries are bothering to vote on the constitution when all 25 were needed to implement it? Seems like a waste of time and money - until there will be signs that another vote by all 25 countries are scheduled sometime in the future for a revised constitution.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 9 Jul, 2005 06:06 pm
Italian views.

http://tcc.itc.it/people/rocchi/fun/europe.html
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