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What is understanding?

 
 
coberst
 
Reply Sat 21 Oct, 2006 12:32 am
What is understanding?


I have for some time been interested in trying to understand what ?'understand' means. I have reached the conclusion that ?'curiosity then caring' is the first steps toward understanding. Without curiosity we care for nothing. Once curiosity is in place then caring becomes necessary for understanding.

Our first experience with ?'understanding' may be our first friendship. I think that this first friendship may be an example of what Carl Sagan meant by "Understanding is a kind of ecstasy".

I also think that the boy who falls in love with automobiles and learns everything he can about repairing the junk car he bought has discovered ?'understanding'.

I suspect many people go their complete life and never have an intellectual experience that culminates in the "ecstasy of understanding". How can this be true? I think that our educational system is designed primarily for filling heads with knowledge and hasn't time to waste on ?'understanding'.

Understanding must come in the adult years if it is to ever come to many of us. I think that it is very important for an adult to find something intellectual that will excite his or her curiosity and concern sufficiently so as to motivate the effort necessary to understand.

We have little comprehension of ?'understanding' because our schooling has taught us only to know. Understanding is a step beyond knowing and our society which values production and consumption has little use for understanding. Those who make public policy do not want a population that cares about understanding. The bull that understands will hook at the Matador rather than the cape.

Understanding is generally not valuable in our society and so we have little comprehension of what it is. However there seems to be one application for understanding. I have on several occasions heard a professor say that "you never really understand a subject until you try to teach it". Here is one occasion that people can begin to comprehend the meaning of the concept. I suspect we all have a sense of what the professor is saying. So here is a ?'use' for understanding and in this example we who only value that which is ?'useful' can begin to gain a comprehension of the concept.

We imply that reason can be depended upon as a guide but we do not help the individual understand what reason is. The problem is that our schools and colleges are only now beginning to teach CT (Critical Thinking), which is the art and science of how to think. We adults were never taught how to think we were only taught what to think. If we do not learn how to think and how to help others learn how to think then we are giving only empty words. We are as ignorant of what reason is as those we wish to give up dogma for reason. Until we learn the art and science of reason we cannot help others to learn how to think.

Search for meaning through self-actuated study can provide a purpose similar to the purpose believers find in religion. Understanding resulting from study, leading to meaning and purpose, is perhaps a legitimate foil to dogma.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Sat 21 Oct, 2006 11:33 am
Re: What is understanding?
coberst wrote:
What is understanding?


To be aware of the process by which something occurs.

Then the question is, "what does it mean to be aware of?"

And the answer to that is, "to have it stored in memory."

Now there is an apparent contradiction here, because the above logic would imply that anything capable of storing a set of steps is capable of understanding.

There are a couple of subtle modifications that must be made to the definitions, then.

To be aware must mean, to have it stored in memory, and have a conscious mind capable of reading that memory.

And now the question is, "what is consciousness?"

And that we don't know the answer to.
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coberst
 
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Reply Sat 21 Oct, 2006 01:36 pm
Comprehension is a hierarchy, resembling a pyramid, with awareness at the base followed by consciousness (awareness plus attention), succeeded by knowing, with understanding at the pinnacle.

Putting the matter into a different context this might give you an idea of what I think about this matter.

Awareness--faces in a crowd.

Consciousness?-smile, a handshake, and curiosity.

Knowledge?-long talks sharing desires and ambitions.

Understanding?-a best friend bringing constant April.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 02:17 pm
cob
I rewrote your list to the example of learning and playing the guitar. I had to tack on a category. Any thoughts?

Awareness- Exposure to the fact that the instrument exists.

Consciousness- The first meeting with the intstrument. Learning the first chord, the first song.

Knowledge- Intimate relationship with instrument, hours of playing and improvising

Understanding- A state of transgression to

Wisdom- In which the tables have turned. Throughout learning, the melody in the mind has been restrained by the limits of the skill in applying it to the instrument. In this state, restraint is broken as total mastery is achieved, and the melody flows uninterrupted from it's source in the mind of the player, free.

In the process of obtaining total mastery, it seems that we spend the first few years of the process on tackling the first three points on the list, and spend the rest of our lives in transgression to the final level.
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coberst
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:04 pm
Cyracuz wrote:
cob
I rewrote your list to the example of learning and playing the guitar. I had to tack on a category. Any thoughts?

Awareness- Exposure to the fact that the instrument exists.

Consciousness- The first meeting with the intstrument. Learning the first chord, the first song.

Knowledge- Intimate relationship with instrument, hours of playing and improvising

Understanding- A state of transgression to

Wisdom- In which the tables have turned. Throughout learning, the melody in the mind has been restrained by the limits of the skill in applying it to the instrument. In this state, restraint is broken as total mastery is achieved, and the melody flows uninterrupted from it's source in the mind of the player, free.

In the process of obtaining total mastery, it seems that we spend the first few years of the process on tackling the first three points on the list, and spend the rest of our lives in transgression to the final level.


I like that very much. I have no artistic talent but I comprehend your meaning. Do you not pity those who never realize that transgression, or that understanding, or that constant April. I think that those of us who have been fortunate enough to have found such a treasure should try to relay that to others so they might know what to try for. I shall copy your statement and pass it on to others. I assume you don't mind my doing so?
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 04:20 pm
I don't mind at all. I am honored.

Quote:
Do you not pity those who never realize that transgression, or that understanding, or that constant April.


I am not sure I do. I feel compassion for those who have a hard time figuring out the subtelties of existence to the extent that it interferes with their happiness, but I do not pity those who do not strive for excellence.

Actually I think we all strive for excellence by some scale or other. When it comes to that constant april, it is not the nature, skill or success of your activity that is the measure, but the passion and effort you put into it.
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coberst
 
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Reply Mon 23 Oct, 2006 04:31 am
Cyracuz

Well said!
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Mon 23 Oct, 2006 04:37 am
Thanks. Smile
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