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What source for self-esteem?

 
 
coberst
 
Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 06:38 am
If the non-believer does depend upon rationality for self-respect how is it possible that so few comprehend anything about rationality?

In the US our schools and colleges are beginning to teach the art and science of good judgment. It is called CT (Critical Thinking). CT teaches the young person how to think; not just what to think.How is it possible for such an individual to develop the internal processes (bootstrap) that allow him or her to become an independent critically self-conscious thinker?Making good judgments is an important and complex matter. There are bad judgments, good judgments, and better judgments. To make better judgments requires many kinds of knowledge, skills, and character traits all working together.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 12:48 pm
Why does it always sound like you are selling something?

Join the cult of critical thinkers, thinking up six ways to slice a tomato before chosing a seventh. Twisted Evil

Sorry, couldn't resist.

But seriously, this critical thinking, by all estimation, seems pretty much like plain old thinking to me. It's like bottling spring water and saying it's better.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 01:04 pm
Your post was far too twisted up for me to want to follow. But, I can tell you what I think as a teacher. Self-esteem is based on self-identity. If you have a sense of place - a strong family, culture, community - that is one foundation of self-esteem. Another is how those important people in your life treat you. Adults need to make sure children succeed. They must set up learning situations where each kid can succeed and they need to tell children when they have succeeded.
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coberst
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 03:09 am
Cyracuz wrote:
Why does it always sound like you are selling something?

Join the cult of critical thinkers, thinking up six ways to slice a tomato before chosing a seventh. Twisted Evil

Sorry, couldn't resist.

But seriously, this critical thinking, by all estimation, seems pretty much like plain old thinking to me. It's like bottling spring water and saying it's better.


I guess I am selling an idea that knowing the art and science of good jodgment is the first step toward becoming good at making judgments. An examination of the morning papers will indicate the lack of good judgment and that is partly because few people know how to think.

We are born with an innate ability to think rationally and we are born with an innate ability to do simple addition and subtraction but we study math in school to enhance our ability with dealing with quantity. If we did that same study of rational thinking we could be much better at it.

I continually point this out in the hope that occassionally some of the readers will become curious and study the matter on their own.
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rockpie
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 04:21 am
i disagree, it's not a set of ''innate abilities'' that we're born with, it's sin. we are infected by sin. which is why it's always easier to do the wrong thing. if you've betrayed somebody it's always easier to deny it than admit it, for example. that satan fellow really gets on my nerves, what a f**king sh*t.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Tue 10 Oct, 2006 12:22 am
coberst wrote:
I guess I am selling an idea that knowing the art and science of good jodgment is the first step toward becoming good at making judgments.


Good judgments come from knowing how to make good judgments. Umm, no arguments there.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Tue 10 Oct, 2006 05:55 am
Good judgement, like good coffee, comes from the use of only the finest quality ingredients. :wink:

Or maybe good judgement is the absence of judgement...

Maybe bad judgement is good, because it enables you to judge better in the future. Anyone can make a mistake. Only a fool can make it twice.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Tue 10 Oct, 2006 10:10 am
Reminds me of a quote (attributed to any number of people):

"Good judgment comes from experience. And experience... well, that comes from bad judgment."
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