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Far-right party wins seats in German election

 
 
Reply Mon 18 Sep, 2006 06:27 am
What on earth is happening in Germany? Neo-Nazis used to be skinhead freaks. Now they are politicians. Something rotten in the land of 'bier and wurst'
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Far-right party wins seats in German election
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September 17, 2006
FRANKFURT A far-right party made further inroads in Germany's economically fragile east on Sunday, winning seats in a state election in Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, a lonely land of farms and fishing villages that is the home constituency of Chancellor Angela Merkel.

The National Democratic Party, which openly espouses xenophobic and neo-Nazi views, was projected to win slightly more than 7 percent of the vote, according to preliminary results. That was less than analysts here had feared, but enough to clear the threshold of 5 percent for seats in the state legislature.

Extreme-right parties will now be represented in three of Germany's six eastern states - a trend that worries officials and underlines the divide between the country's eastern and western halves. Far-right parties have negligible support in more-prosperous western Germany.

"This shows the extreme right is a stable and growing force in the east, but it is not an earthquake," said Hajo Funke, a political scientist at the Free University of Berlin. "It's not a danger for our democracy."

The result, however, is a rebuke for Merkel and her conservative party, the Christian Democratic Union, which lost votes in Mecklenburg and fared even worse in the second of the two state legislative elections on Sunday, in Berlin. There, the popular mayor, Klaus Wowereit, led his Social Democratic Party to a comfortable victory.

Voters appeared to be punishing Merkel's party, 10 months after it squeaked into power in an unwieldy "grand coalition" with the Social Democrats. The Social Democrats, who govern Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, lost ground there, too, and it was not clear whether they could salvage their coalition with the Party of Democratic Socialism, the former East German Communist party.

Merkel, who began her political career in Mecklenburg 15 years ago, has tried to focus attention on the region, inviting President Bush in July for a visit. But the state has one of the highest unemployment rates in Germany, which makes it a breeding ground for extremism, analysts say.

The National Democratic Party, which the German government once tried to ban, won seats in Saxony, a similarly depressed eastern state, in 2004. Another far-right party is represented in Brandenburg, the state that surrounds Berlin.

"The grand coalition hasn't presented a forceful program to tackle Germany's problems," Funke said. "These parties take advantage of the frustration of those who have no chance of a social or economic future."

One of the few winners on Sunday was Wowereit, who was given a strong mandate as mayor of Berlin, with the choice of renewing his coalition with the Party of Democratic Socialism or forming a new one with the Greens, the largest vote-gainer since the last election, in 2001.

The victory may foretell a greater national role for Wowereit, a 52-year-old lawyer who has become a star in Berlin. His party-going style seems to suit his late-night town, and his disclosure before the last election that he is gay only added to his appeal. On Sunday, Wowereit appeared on stage with his partner, Jörn Kubicki, a neurosurgeon.

With the departure of Social Democratic leaders like Gerhard Schröder, and a lack of other rising stars, Wowereit has made his ambitions plain. "I would like to have more say that I have had in the last five years, when we had to clean up the city," he said in a recent interview with the German magazine Stern.

Whether he has done so is a matter of debate. Berlin is strangled by debt, a jobless rate of nearly 20 percent and a shrinking commercial base. Wowereit, who is known as Wowi, prefers to focus on its role as a cultural center and tourist magnet. Berlin, he said last year, is "poor but sexy" - a line that has become a tongue-in-cheek slogan for the city.

His opponent, Friedbert Pflüger, a Christian Democratic member of Parliament, tried to portray the mayor as a lightweight. But in a city that rewards flamboyance, Pflüger, an establishment politician originally from the western city of Hanover, never stood a chance.

"Up until now, he hasn't been a strong voice in politics on the national level," Uwe Andersen, a political scientist at Ruhr University, said of Wowereit. "He may think this result strengthens his position."
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:19 am
Watch out for that pendulum....
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detano inipo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 01:26 pm
How can anyone be a neo-Nazi today? Incredible!
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 01:48 pm
Well, I think for many youths, neo-nazism offers purpose to an otherwise meaningless existence, much in the same way that radical Islam or any other extremist cause. You must also remember that before the total destruction of the German people, National Socialism had many great accomplishments. They completely turned the country around after one of the worst times in that nations history. The Nazis completely revived Germany and made them a powerful nation again. There is a certain sentimentality there. Not to mention the effects of communism and liberalism that have completely transformed the country into something that many traditional Germans resent. I think that massive immigration has especially fueled resentment in many ethnic Germans.
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squinney
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 01:54 pm
bm. Waiting for Walter or someone with some historical insight.

Pendulum? Or, meaningful swing as is being seen elsewhere in the world?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:05 pm
Re: Far-right party wins seats in German election
detano inipo wrote:
What on earth is happening in Germany? Neo-Nazis used to be skinhead freaks. Now they are politicians. Something rotten in the land of 'bier and wurst'



We have always have right-wing/Neo-Nazi parties here, too often even in state (and more often in county/municipal) parliaments.

From wikipeia (German) the following list, showing the results of the NPD in the elections in German states:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5797/zwischenablage01cw6.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7856/zwischenablage02nx7.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:07 pm
Btw: there's a long-running thread about right-wing German parties where these results were already mentioned as well.
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detano inipo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:17 pm
Thanks Walter, but that was two years ago.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:19 pm
detano inipo wrote:
Thanks Walter, but that was two years ago.


Both my above link and the graphic include last Sunday's results.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:19 pm
Re: Far-right party wins seats in German election
detano inipo wrote:
What on earth is happening in Germany? Neo-Nazis used to be skinhead freaks. Now they are politicians. Something rotten in the land of 'bier and wurst'

Sure -- about 5-10% of Germany's population believes in xenophobic, Germany-first, and racist policies. The percentage is higher where people are in economic distress, and don't see relief coming from the traditional parties. East Germany are still having a rough time as the East German economy continues to adapt to the reunification. Accordingly, more people vote for the far-right than in West Germany.

All of this worries me. But you have to put it in perspective: Neo-fascist politicians are still much less popular in Germany than they are in comparable European countries such as Italy and France. And even in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, the percentage of NPD voters was smaller than the percentage that got David Duke into the Louisiana State legislature.

Every country, including Germany, has its fringe of right-wing extremist. And since Germany, unlike America, has proportionate representation, this fringe gets represented in our state parliaments.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:21 pm
I also don't think it's altogther accurate to label neo-nazi's as far-right, not in any traditional sense of the word at least.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:29 pm
Atavistic wrote:
I also don't think it's altogther accurate to label neo-nazi's as far-right, not in any traditional sense of the word at least.


No. extreme far right would be better, especially when using the traditonal and historic sense of the word.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 02:49 pm
Re: Far-right party wins seats in German election
Thomas wrote:
All of this worries me. But you have to put it in perspective: Neo-fascist politicians are still much less popular in Germany than they are in comparable European countries such as Italy and France. And even in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, the percentage of NPD voters was smaller than the percentage that got David Duke into the Louisiana State legislature.


I was under the impression that German law strictly forbids racist speech. The United States has greater freedom of expression than Germany. Has Germany recently changed its law? Is it now easier for neo-fascist parties to spread propaganda in Germany?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 03:09 pm
Re: Far-right party wins seats in German election
wandeljw wrote:
I was under the impression that German law strictly forbids racist speech.

It forbids specific kinds of racist speech, such as Holocaust denial or sedition. But racist speech that steers clear of these has always been legal, and continues to be.

wandeljw wrote:
Is it now easier for neo-fascist parties to spread propaganda in Germany?

Perhaps -- but I think this has more to do with the spread of the internet than with legislation. I don't remember any recent liberalizations of laws about holocaust denial or sedition; then again, I haven't paid much attention. Walter, did you notice anything along these lines?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 03:18 pm
Re: Far-right party wins seats in German election
wandeljw wrote:

I was under the impression that German law strictly forbids racist speech. The United States has greater freedom of expression than Germany. Has Germany recently changed its law? Is it now easier for neo-fascist parties to spread propaganda in Germany?


Israel, France, Germany, Austria and a couple of more countries have laws, fobidden Holocaust denial. Austria and Germany (and surely a couple of more European countries) aditionally laws against the use of Nazi enblems.

Are you referring to this, wandel?

'Racist speech' could be handled under the German Penal Code with defamation or libel.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 03:19 pm
And a clear 'no' to Thomas' question.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 06:58 pm
Re: Far-right party wins seats in German election
Thomas wrote:

Sure -- about 5-10% of Germany's population believes in xenophobic, Germany-first, and racist policies.

"Germany-first" and xenophobic are two completely different things. Why would you lump them together like that?
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 07:00 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
I also don't think it's altogther accurate to label neo-nazi's as far-right, not in any traditional sense of the word at least.


No. extreme far right would be better, especially when using the traditonal and historic sense of the word.

"The right" in it's traditional and historic form signifies a monarchial and/or aristocratic form of government. Quite the opposite of what the nazis and neo-nazis stand for.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:44 pm
Atavistic wrote:
"The right" in it's traditional and historic form signifies a monarchial and/or aristocratic form of government. Quite the opposite of what the nazis and neo-nazis stand for.


It has been quite some time since I worked about this topic at univerity, and I certainly I might have missed such significant changes in scientific opinion, I admit.

Thanks for that update.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Thu 21 Sep, 2006 04:52 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
"The right" in it's traditional and historic form signifies a monarchial and/or aristocratic form of government. Quite the opposite of what the nazis and neo-nazis stand for.


It has been quite some time since I worked about this topic at univerity, and I certainly I might have missed such significant changes in scientific opinion, I admit.

Thanks for that update.

I'm sorry, was that sarcastic?
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