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The Quran - The Holy Scripture of the Muslims

 
 
Mohsin
 
Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 09:11 pm
Hey everyone. I will periodically post parts of the Quran on this thread in English translation . Others are welcome to comment and post parts of the Quran as well. Any comments or questions however are more then welcome and I hope all Muslims on this forum take a part in answering any quieries. Thanks

Consider this an attempt at reaching out to the non-Muslim surfers all accross the world and inviting them to read and research the Quran as it is in translation so that they can see the message of our scripture for themselves and judge the spirit of Islam for themselves.

For my first post I have decided to post the first revelation, the first verses revealed to our Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). And after that also, the first chapter of the Quran which is called "The Opening" which has 7 verses which the Muslim is required to recite in every prayer.

So here it is, the first verses revealed in the cave named Hira. The prophet Muhammad was in meditation, and Gabriel appeared to him... He said "Read".... in shock and amazement, and probably a little embarrased since Muhammad was illiterate and could not read or write, he says "I cannot"... The Angel says "Read..." Muhammad again says "I cannot read, I am illiterate"... The Archangel then grabs hold of the prophet, and hugs him tightly and again says "Read...." and so begins the 96th chapter of the Quran, entitled "The Clot". The first five verses of this chapter make up the first ever revelation of the Quran to Muhammad. I will post the first 8 verses of this chapter.



Chapter 96 - "The Clot"

In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful

1: Read in the name of thy Lord who creates --
2: Creates man from a clot
3: Read and thy Lord is most Generous,
4: Who taught by the pen,
5: Taught man what he knew not.
6: Nay, man is surely inordinate,
7: Because he looks upon himself as self-sufficient.
8: Surely to thy Lord is the return...


Chapter 1 "The Opening"

In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful

1: Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds,
2: The Beneficent, the Merciful,
3: Master of the day of Requital.
4: Thee do we serve and Thee do we beseech for help.
5: Guide us on the right path,
6: The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favours
7: Not those upon whom wrath is brought down, nor those who
go astray.

Ameen




Im thinkin maybe next time ill post some verses in the Quran
which deal with Mother Mary (Peace be Upon Her)
and/or Jesus (Peace be upon Him).

Anyways till then, PeAcE

p.s. you can always read the Quran online for more information
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 09:14 pm
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 09:20 pm
Uh . . . Welcome to the forum, Mohsin
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 09:31 pm
Welcome, Mohsin
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 21 Aug, 2006 09:34 pm
<folding back a corner of the page to bookmark>

Oh, yeah. Welcome to A2K, Mohsin.

Smile
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muslim1
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 01:50 pm
Mohsin wrote:
Hey everyone. I will periodically post parts of the Quran on this thread in English translation . Others are welcome to comment and post parts of the Quran as well. Any comments or questions however are more then welcome and I hope all Muslims on this forum take a part in answering any quieries. Thanks

Consider this an attempt at reaching out to the non-Muslim surfers all accross the world and inviting them to read and research the Quran as it is in translation so that they can see the message of our scripture for themselves and judge the spirit of Islam for themselves.

For my first post I have decided to post the first revelation, the first verses revealed to our Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). And after that also, the first chapter of the Quran which is called "The Opening" which has 7 verses which the Muslim is required to recite in every prayer.

So here it is, the first verses revealed in the cave named Hira. The prophet Muhammad was in meditation, and Gabriel appeared to him... He said "Read".... in shock and amazement, and probably a little embarrased since Muhammad was illiterate and could not read or write, he says "I cannot"... The Angel says "Read..." Muhammad again says "I cannot read, I am illiterate"... The Archangel then grabs hold of the prophet, and hugs him tightly and again says "Read...." and so begins the 96th chapter of the Quran, entitled "The Clot". The first five verses of this chapter make up the first ever revelation of the Quran to Muhammad. I will post the first 8 verses of this chapter.



Chapter 96 - "The Clot"

In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful

1: Read in the name of thy Lord who creates --
2: Creates man from a clot
3: Read and thy Lord is most Generous,
4: Who taught by the pen,
5: Taught man what he knew not.
6: Nay, man is surely inordinate,
7: Because he looks upon himself as self-sufficient.
8: Surely to thy Lord is the return...


Chapter 1 "The Opening"

In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful

1: Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds,
2: The Beneficent, the Merciful,
3: Master of the day of Requital.
4: Thee do we serve and Thee do we beseech for help.
5: Guide us on the right path,
6: The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favours
7: Not those upon whom wrath is brought down, nor those who
go astray.

Ameen




Im thinkin maybe next time ill post some verses in the Quran
which deal with Mother Mary (Peace be Upon Her)
and/or Jesus (Peace be upon Him).

Anyways till then, PeAcE

p.s. you can always read the Quran online for more information


Salam brother Mohsin,

May Allah reward you for your first and important post.

Welcome to the forum!
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kate4christ03
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 08:56 am
as muslims what is your belief on where Allah resides...does he reside in muslims and do you have a personal relationship with him????
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neologist
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 09:54 am
It would be nice if Mo would stick around for discussion instead of flying over us and dropping his wisdom like whitewash.

What do you say Mo?

Tell us how to improve our lives and our relationship with our creator.
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Mohsin
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 11:38 am
thanks for the welcome guys, much obliged :wink:


kate4christ03,

Hmmm... where Allah (God) resides?....
I once heard an eminent scientist trying
to answer a question like this, his answer was:

"that question would be like asking the fish
to describe the water."


As for a less vague answer, the answer is... point
your finger towards the sky, out of respect.

And yes, in Islam, the only type of relationship man
is supposed to have with his God is a personal one.
No intermediators, no middle men, no clergy, nothing.
You need help, ask God and him alone. You thank God alone.
You should want to impress God alone. Everything should be
directed as a matter between you and your God.

Cheers.


Neo,

Hey bud,

I only know of one way to improve your
relationship with your creator. Talk to him
and ask him to improve his relationship with you.

Just remember to keep your eyes, ears and heart open
for his reply... Because if your call is sincere, he will respond.
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 11:58 am
Welcome
Mohsin wrote:
thanks for the welcome guys, much obliged :wink:


kate4christ03,

Hmmm... where Allah (God) resides?....
I once heard an eminent scientist trying
to answer a question like this, his answer was:

"that question would be like asking the fish
to describe the water."


As for a less vague answer, the answer is... point
your finger towards the sky, out of respect.

And yes, in Islam, the only type of relationship man
is supposed to have with his God is a personal one.
No intermediators, no middle men, no clergy, nothing.
You need help, ask God and him alone. You thank God alone.
You should want to impress God alone. Everything should be
directed as a matter between you and your God.

Cheers.


Neo,

Hey bud,

I only know of one way to improve your
relationship with your creator. Talk to him
and ask him to improve his relationship with you.

Just remember to keep your eyes, ears and heart open
for his reply... Because if your call is sincere, he will respond.


Welcome brother............Your services are needed in this forum
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kate4christ03
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 03:00 pm
but my question is does the islamic faith believe that Allah resides in the individuals to have a personal relationship
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neologist
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 03:07 pm
Mohsin wrote:
Neo,

Hey bud,

I only know of one way to improve your
relationship with your creator. Talk to him
and ask him to improve his relationship with you.

Just remember to keep your eyes, ears and heart open
for his reply... Because if your call is sincere, he will respond.
Glad to see you haven't gone away.

I've been doing as you suggested for many years, yet I continue to eschew the Koran.
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Mohsin
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 04:34 pm
kate4christ03

Quote:
but my question is does the islamic faith believe that Allah resides in the individuals to have a personal relationship


As far as my understanding goes,
God does not reside within the individual,
rather all matter and energy are created
by him.

Although there are schools of thought within
Islam, like Sufism which believe God does reside
within the individual, but I am no expert on sufi teachings.

But just because God resides outside of the self
does not mean he is not close. God says in the Quran
50:16 that he is closer to the individual then his jugular vein.



Neo,

Quote:
Glad to see you haven't gone away.

I've been doing as you suggested for many years, yet I continue to eschew the Koran.


Glad to be here bud.

Well... give the Quran a try.
What do you have to lose right?

I suggest the Yusuf Ali translation,
pick it up in a library. Or try this website,
it has it all online.

http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/
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kate4christ03
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 08:15 pm
ok ty for answering my question.......one of the most amazing things about christianity is that God resides in us.......our body is his temple....
There is no closer relationship than that.......
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neologist
 
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Reply Wed 23 Aug, 2006 08:21 pm
Mohsin, you would have to show me how it could transcend the Bible.
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QKid
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 10:08 am
Neologist,

The goal of a muslim is not to show how the Qur'an transcends the Bible. That is because muslims believe in the original Bible that was revealed to prophet Jesus peace be upon him. But make it clear the Bible or Bible's we have today is not the original Bible muslims believe in. The goal of a muslim is to worship the creator of this universe only and to spread that message.
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 10:31 am
By virtue of the fact that it deviates from the Bible's message, I would have to reject it.

Tell me how it would advance the teachings of the Bible.
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Mohsin
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 10:42 am
kate4christ03,

If that is your belief than I hope it works for you.
May God guide us all. Take care Smile


Neo,

The only difference which I will cite between the scriptures is the
accuracy of the Torah and Bible has been distorted over the centuries.
A fact which stands undisputed by everyone. They are still finding books
of the bible (recently the Book of Judas was found, and the book attributed
to Marry Magdelene) which the clergy at the time of the Roman Empire
refused to incorporate into the official bible out of political and social
consideration. This I saw on a docomentary on CNN no less. Also,
download a documentary called "Who wrote the bible". I used
TorrentSpy.

The Quran however, is exactly the way it was revealed to Muhammad.
A fact about the Quran which remains undisputed. So my sincere advise
to you Neo would be to read the Quran and do not look at it as something
different then the Bible or Torah. Look at it as the most recent and
updated version of the same revelation. The final chapter which clarifies
the same stories told in the bible and adds to them, in fact fixes some
mistakes in them as well.

An example would be the story of Adam and Eve.
In the Bible, you see Eve being blamed for seducing Adam
to eat of the fruit of the forbidden tree. In the Quran, you
see a more accurate version of the story. It was not eve
which seduced Adam, but Satan. Nor was there any great
battle in Heaven between Satan and God. After Satan refused
to bow down to Adam, God simply told Satan to "get out from
this state, for it not for you to act proudly therein" and that was it.

Satan asked God for resptite "until the day that they are raised"
and God agreed, knowing that most of humanity would be led
astray by Satan. But with God its not about quantity, its about quality.

There are more historical proofs int he Quran, for example, in the Bible,
the Pharoah of Moses was drowned with his army. In the Quran, it was
revealed that God saved the Pharoah from death that day to make him
an example to the nations. This was before the body of Rameses II was
found, and today rests in a mumified state for all to see. So where the
Bible errs a little in detail, the Quran corrects it.

But its up to you. I have no power over you to make you read the Quran
if you dont want to. And arguing over this issue will yield nothing,
nor do I stand to gain anything from any debate.

PeAcE bud

PeAcE
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 10:52 am
After seeing that most Bible believers are unable to understand the story of Adam and Eve, I find it difficult to believe the Koran could explain it any better.

Let me ask you this:

Was Satan created perfect?
Was Eve?
Was Adam?

If so, how did it come about that they sinned?
What would life be like now if they had not sinned?
What remedy (if any) did God provide?
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Mohsin
 
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Reply Thu 24 Aug, 2006 11:00 am
neologist wrote:
After seeing that most Bible believers are unable to understand the story of Adam and Eve, I find it difficult to believe the Koran could explain it any better.

Let me ask you this:

Was Satan created perfect?
Was Eve?
Was Adam?

If so, how did it come about that they sinned?
What would life be like now if they had not sinned?
What remedy (if any) did God provide?


If you would read the story of Adam and Eve, in the Quran...
you might change your mind. In fact, its a good idea to post those
verses from the Quran. I will do that later on, for now some familly
just came to visit so I have to be quick.

I will try to answer your questions bud, but dont take my
word for it, you should go and read the Quran for yourself.

#1 No creation is created perfect.
Only God is perfect. And he was not created.

#2 The questions of "what ifs" dont exist in Islam.
In Islam, you hold the belief that whatever happened,
happened exactly the way God intended. There are no
two players in the chess game of life. Its not light vs. dark.
Its not good vs. evil. And its certainly not God vs. Satan.

Where there is light, darkness cannot exist.
And God has no rivals competing against him.
He created evil, and he is the one which controls
and limits it.

ill post those verses later.
Peace
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