Wind Turbines On the Roof

thats what I wanted

any the local council said

you live in an area "one stage down" from a conservation area, get lost.

(just typed get lots which would have been quite funny)

Really? Phooey...

yeah I wanted my own real wind turbin

and all I got was a bit of paper

which folded and stuck with a pin on a stick is really neat

Our local vocational college produces a lot of their energy with such.

You can buy various here - online - from 435 EURO onwards.

Ok walter I give you 435 euro

will bring over a long length of electrical cable

I wonder....

well, last I read about the big wind turbines is that birds kept getting caught in them. I wonder if these are more bird friendly..

local news :
some condo developments in the kingston area have restriction on using of "outside clothes-lines" . all wash must be dried - no doubt using electric dryer - inside the condo !
some condo-owners have banded together to lobby the managemant , city-council , the provincial government ... pointing out the stupidity of using electricity when the there is plenty of heat available outside and when citizens are being asked "to conserve electricity" .
so far they haven't had any luck and if they disregard the rule they'll be fined !
so much for human stupidity !
(i wonder if they could ask pat robertson to speak on their behalf .
hbg

Craziness, hamburger...

You've to add 65 EUROs for a loading station/transmitter to that!

Sounds like urban legends, at least nothing like happened ... in our windparks around here - the largest with about 200 turbines.

Some 80 here

since kingston is favourable situated on the eastern shore of lake ontario there are now plans underway to install 80+ siemens windturbines by 2008 .
we have a fairly steady wind coming across the lake (from the south-west) and it is planned to install the turbines on wolfe island (the largest of the 1,000 islands) just offshore from kingston to take advantage of the winds .
of course there are some who think that these windfarms "will spoil the view" - even though most of the islanders are much in favour of it .
the island was at one time a thriving farm community but not much farming is left . farmers seem to be looking forward to making some money by leasing the land to the windfarm developers .
locally , queen's university and st. lawrence college are actively involved in trying to push the project ahead - we sure have enough scientists and technicians to make a go of it .
let's hope it doesn't get strangled by 'environmentalists' - some do not like the idea of wind farms being built .
hbg

...LAKE ONTARIO WINDTURBINES...

I don't read much at legend type information sites (except major newspapers, heh..)

I see here though that it is probably a matter of migration routes, specific geography.http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/swcbd/Programs/bdes/altamont/altamont.html

there is plenty of evidence on wind turbine bird deaths.
none of it to my mind amounts to a reason not to build wind farms.

Yesterday I heard of a study which reported 1.2 bird deaths per year at wind farms in this country, none of which were rare or threatened species.

There is an enormouse political storm raging around the decision to not allow a particular wind farm on Victoria's south east coast.

Early developements

latest developments



At Pacifi c Hydro's Codrington Wind Farm in Victoria
(comprising 14 wind generators and opened in July
2001) a total of four bird deaths and one bat death
were reported as a consequence of colliding with
wind generators between 2001 and 2003. None of
these were rare, threatened or endangered species.
The measured mortality rates were used to predict a
likely level of mortality from the wind farm as a whole
of between 18 and 38 birds per year. Although there
were some early concerns about the potential impact
the wind farm might have on water birds, behavioural
studies showed that this group was adept at avoiding
turbines

• Stanwell's Toora wind farm in South Gippsland
comprises 12 wind turbines. Between 2002 and 2003
six bat corpses were found. Common starlings,
Australian magpies and ravens declined in numbers
after operations started (although no fatalities were
recorded), while the numbers of skylarks and
gold fi nches increased. Wedge-tailed eagles were
regularly observed before and after operations
began, but these avoided the turbines by fl ying
around or between them, not into them. The survey
found no evidence that the wind farm has caused
signifi cant levels of bird mortality and stated that the
impact seems to be confi ned to localised,
indirect effects on common, farmland birds. No
threatened bird species were observed on
the site during a total of two years of surveys
and whilst bats have been impacted, the effect is not
of conservation signifi cance.
• For Stage 1 of its Woolnorth Wind Farm, Hydro
Tasmania has released results of bird studies
conducted from October 2002 to October 2003,
during which wind turbines were monitored for
evidence of any collisions. The wind turbines were
monitored daily during peak activity periods and twice
weekly throughout the remainder of the year. These
studies show that mortality rates for all species
are at the lower end of the levels predicted at the
development assessment stage. After October 2003,
Hydro Tasmania did report an additional nine birds
having collided with wind turbines, one of which was
a wedge-tailed eagle, which is a threatened species
in Tasmania (but not on the mainland). Under the
conditions of its planning permit from the Tasmanian
Environmental Management and Pollution Control
Board, Hydro Tasmania is required to make a
contribution to the species' recovery.

Sorry, this was jambed up against the sentence before it, so I'll separate it out here.

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/swcbd/Programs/bdes/altamont/altamont.html

I'm all for wind farms too, and as far as I know, I'm all for mini turbines on buildings like this one the thread is about.

The Altamont situation did turn out to be a learning experience that they have based modifications on, though.

Appears to be good news re birds and turbines - a simple infrared collision-detection system developed by Denmark's National Environmental Research Institute HERE

Did I understand that report wrong? I'd thaught, it was about a video "Environmental Monitoring Program"?


A similar project was done in Sweden a couple of months ago - an even larger is running momentarily in Germany.

I doubt you got it wrong, it is 'just' a detector, but it shows bird behavior re the turbines..
situation(s) like Altamont, where something like 1300 birds were killed in a year, look to me apt to be related to specific situations.

my neighbour had a wind turbine on his roof. The wind blew it away. And the roof. :wink:

Now there's a twist..