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origin of "modern philosophy"

 
 
Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 09:34 am
Hi:

Do you know the origin of the phrase "modern philosophy"? Do you happen to know when the phrase became popular?
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 10:27 am
Welcome.

I think the word 'modern' insinuates that it is contemporary.

But the 1700 is considered the birth of western philosophy, wich is generally what is referred to when we say "modern philosophy".

So, sometime after the eighteenth century, to answer your question.
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emagalha
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 11:09 am
"modern philosophy"
I was actually looking for as specific a reference as possible.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 11:44 am
Re: "modern philosophy"
emagalha wrote:
I was actually looking for as specific a reference as possible.
June 13, 1652 at noon.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 11:51 am
No dys, it was five past...
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 01:20 pm
I think many philosophers would date the beginnings of "modern philosophy" to the publication of Descartes' Meditations on First Philosophy in 1641. So dyslexia was only off by about eleven years.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 01:23 pm
No, just by five minutes.

The question was not when modern philosophy began. It was when the term became popular. :wink:
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 01:31 pm
Cyracuz wrote:
The question was not when modern philosophy began. It was when the term became popular. :wink:

The answer to that question is probably found in someone else's lecture notes. Emagalha, therefore, would be well advised to ask one of his/her classmates.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 02:24 pm
Re: "modern philosophy"
Quote:
June 13, 1652 at noon.


Is that Mountain Standard Time or Hawaii-Aleutian Standard Time?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 02:28 pm
Cyracuz wrote:
No, just by five minutes.

The question was not when modern philosophy began. It was when the term became popular. :wink:


Whoa...Cyracuz...

...that was a very sharp observation...

...and retort.

I am mightily impressed.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 02:28 pm
Oops...I forgot my smiling devil face.

Twisted Evil
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 03:56 pm
Thanks. Cool


But I would think the phrase we're talking about would have become popular around the time of the industrial revolution.
I am not sure, but I think the term "modern" dates back to those days.
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emagalha
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 07:16 am
Thanks for the help. Smile
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 09:30 am
It's not help. I'm not stating facts. But you're welcome.
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emagalha
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jul, 2006 01:22 pm
My friend reminded me that Hume used the expression in his _Treatise of Human Nature_. It is in the title of a section in Book I, part iv, I think.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 03:09 pm
Didn't he write that around the time of the beginning of the industrial revolution?
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 03:35 pm
I would consider Kant a candidate for this honor.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 04:31 pm
I doubt it would help you with the phrase "modern philosophy," but there is a book called The Five Faces of Modernity by Matei Calinescu which has a bit of discussion about the use of the word "modern" throughout history. You have to take the book with a grain of salt--there are some dubious descriptions of history--but he does cite some instances of the word "modern" that date back to the Middle Ages. According to Calinescu (he cites a Latin dictionary), "It was during the Middle Ages that the word modernus, an adjective and noun, was coined from the adverb modo (meaning 'recently, just now')..."
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 04:46 pm
Shapeless, I suppose a very broad concept of the "modern" could take us , paradoxically, back to the most traditional of times, the middle ages. But the discussion of "modernism" and "modernity" could pertain to different phenomena.
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jul, 2006 04:56 pm
Certainly. Calinescu's concern is mostly with the absorption of "modernity" into aesthetics and art, so not surprisingly the book is devoted primarily to the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. For him, "modernism" is actually a sub-category of "modernity"; it's the first of the "five faces" to which the title of his book refers, the other four being "the avant-garde," "decadence," "kitsch," and "postmodernism." (It's one of the weaknesses of the whole project, in my opinion; I'm not sure what is gained by trying to organize modernity into such neat little cubby holes.)
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