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Tutankhamen's gem hints at space impact....

 
 
Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:12 am
Tut's gem hints at space impact

In 1996 in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, Italian mineralogist Vincenzo de Michele spotted an unusual yellow-green gem in the middle of one of Tutankhamun's necklaces.
The jewel was tested and found to be glass, but intriguingly it is older than the earliest Egyptian civilisation.


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Working with Egyptian geologist Aly Barakat, they traced its origins to unexplained chunks of glass found scattered in the sand in a remote region of the Sahara Desert.

But the glass is itself a scientific enigma. How did it get to be there and who or what made it?

Thursday's BBC Horizon programme reports an extraordinary new theory linking Tutankhamun's gem with a meteor.

Sky of fire

An Austrian astrochemist Christian Koeberl had established that the glass had been formed at a temperature so hot that there could be only one known cause: a meteorite impacting with Earth. And yet there were no signs of an impact crater, even in satellite images.

American geophysicist John Wasson is another scientist interested in the origins of the glass. He suggested a solution that came directly from the forests of Siberia.

"When the thought came to me that it required a hot sky, I thought immediately of the Tunguska event," he tells Horizon.

In 1908, a massive explosion flattened 80 million trees in Tunguska, Siberia.

Although there was no sign of a meteorite impact, scientists now think an extraterrestrial object of some kind must have exploded above Tunguska. Wasson wondered if a similar aerial burst could have produced enough heat to turn the ground to glass in the Egyptian desert.

Jupiter clue

The first atomic bomb detonation, at the Trinity site in New Mexico in 1945, created a thin layer of glass on the sand. But the area of glass in the Egyptian desert is vastly bigger.

Whatever happened in Egypt must have been much more powerful than an atomic bomb.

Impact simulation
A natural airburst of that magnitude was unheard of until, in 1994, scientists watched as comet Shoemaker-Levy collided with Jupiter. It exploded in the Jovian atmosphere, and the Hubble telescope recorded the largest incandescent fireball ever witnessed rising over Jupiter's horizon.

Mark Boslough, who specialises in modelling large impacts on supercomputers, created a simulation of a similar impact on Earth.

The simulation revealed that an impactor could indeed generate a blistering atmospheric fireball, creating surface temperatures of 1,800C, and leaving behind a field of glass.

"What I want to emphasise is that it is hugely bigger in energy than the atomic tests," says Boslough. "Ten thousand times more powerful."

Defence lessons

The more fragile the incoming object, the more likely these airborne explosions are to happen.

In Southeast Asia, John Wasson has unearthed the remains of an event 800,000 years ago that was even more powerful and damaging than the one in the Egyptian desert; one which produced multiple fireballs and left glass over three hundred thousand square miles, with no sign of a crater.

"Within this region, certainly all of the humans would have been killed. There would be no hope for anything to survive," he says.

According to Boslough and Wasson, events similar to Tunguska could happen as frequently as every 100 years, and the effect of even a small airburst would be comparable to many Hiroshima bombs.

Attempting to blow up an incoming asteroid, Hollywood style, could well make things worse by increasing the number of devastating airbursts.

"There are hundreds of times more of these smaller asteroids than there are the big ones the astronomers track," says Mark Boslough. "There will be another impact on the earth. It's just a matter of when."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5196362.stm
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:18 am
That's quite interesting, Lord. On a sidenote: I have been listening to the BBC radio broadcast every night and find it vastly entertaining, far superior to the dribble which we receive on the airwaves over here.

I also find the theme song quite catchy. Am I the only one who looks forward to hearing that little jingle?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:22 am
I was just digging around to see if I could uncover that particular theme music and disvovered the following quote regarding British television...

The theme song to 1960s children's TV show The White Horses has been named the greatest in television history

What in bloody hell (to borrow a British phrase) was The White Horses?

I found that here
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:24 am
Dammit! I've done it again! Here we were talking about ancient Egypt and mysterious meteors and the creation of glass by such and I have steered the conversation towards British theme music.

When will I learn to shut the bloody hell up?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:26 am
There there, Gus. You've taken my appalled "1908... every 100 years... GACK" mindset and got me chuckling. You're doing God's work.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:33 am
Gus, that tune is very well known over here, but I never watched the series, as it was a girly thing. I wanted to, but nanny used to distract me at that time of day with a large canister of talcum powder.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:38 am
If you like the BBC radio Gus....may I recommend a little thing that happens on Steve Wright's afternoon show (radio 2) ,,,called....

ASK ELVIS!! .....MARVELLOUS!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/wright/elvis.shtml

Several snippets to choose from....all on "real player".
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 06:58 pm
Thanks for the link, Lord. I will check it out.
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:15 pm
I love the idea of natural glasses formed from meteor strikes. I know there is such glass in the sarhara, in the deserts of namibia and in the steppes/gobi desert (can't remember). I had a chunk from the steppe area, I can't remember it's name...... anyway, very cool story.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:36 pm
I havea bunch of those in the bird bath, the birds really like how they sparkle in the water, then, they **** on them. Fuc*king birds!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 07:55 pm
These things are called tektites and noone is 100% sure where is their soource. Mos agree that they result from hypervelocity impacts by big meteorites that either impact or blow up in the air (like Tunguska).
They are mostly dark green grading to pale yellows and in Africa there are 2 tektiite cluster areas , called "strewn fields"
Theres the Ivory Coast and the Libyan strewn field. One thing that most agree upon is that they have littel applied use.

They do contain less than 0.0005% bound water so they can be assayed for other heaviy minerals besides the chrome/iron/nickel that gives the color.

I knew a researcher who made his entire life studying a particular strewn field and he was able to drink 7 margaritas strait down and not puke.
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 08:18 pm
farmerman wrote:
These things are called tektites and noone is 100% sure where is their soource. Mos agree that they result from hypervelocity impacts by big meteorites that either impact or blow up in the air (like Tunguska).


That's it! Tunguska!
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 06:23 am
farmerman wrote:
I knew a researcher who made his entire life studying a particular strewn field and he was able to drink 7 margaritas strait down and not puke


Understandable how one could develop a tolerance for alcohol living a life such as that.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 07:07 am
gus bores through to the essence of being a tektite hunter. Its like looking for fly **** as a profession, then when you find the flyshit, you map it and show how it relates to other pieces of flyshit. Of course Im being flippant but I guess somebody has to do this kind of stuff.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 08:31 am
Have they done any research to see if it could have been lightning induced glass? I wonder if there is anyway they can figure out the souorce of the glass to determine if it actually orginated in Egypt or might have been a gift.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 08:50 am
The article states, very early on, McG, that:

Working with Egyptian geologist Aly Barakat, they traced its origins to unexplained chunks of glass found scattered in the sand in a remote region of the Sahara Desert.

That suggests to me that it were received as a gift or in trade, and was not local to the riverine kingdom of the Pharoahs.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 08:54 am
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I knew a researcher who made his entire life studying a particular strewn field and he was able to drink 7 margaritas strait down and not puke.

Thank you, farmerman, I've been looking for a profession for a character and this may be it. (I want something akin to studying the pharmacology of dirt) A life of study into objects which end up not telling us much more than we already knew when the life of study began. (Some big hot thing came by and made them.)

But here's a question: Does anyone think that the early, early people of the area put 2 and 2 together and figured out that the surface glass pieces were the same material as that which was below them, only heated? Thereby leading to the making of glass? Or is glass even older than that, the result of over heated campfires and forges?

Joe(I'm studying obsession.)Nation
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 08:56 am
To make that clearer, so that you don't think i'm just sniping at you: the article is rather imprecise. It says "remote region of the Sahara Desert." That could be just about anywhere in north Africa. The eastern extremity of the Sahara does reach the Nile and the Red Sea, but is usually referred to as the Lybian Desert. At all events, when Tut was Pharoah, the Egyptians basically clung to the fringes of the Nile. They ventured into the desert, but they didn't live there.

Without more specific information on the area of the Sahara where this glass is found, one couldn't really say. I'll see what i can find.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 09:03 am
The Sunday Times article says that it is believed to have come from the Great Sand Sea. The Lybian Desert is actually the most arid portion of the Sahara, and the Great Sand Sea is a "sand dune" about the size of Oregon on what is now the border of Egypt and Lybia. The Egyptian town of Siwa, which is nearby (northwest), was the site of an ancient temple, and the western terminus of a caravan (trade) route--so it is entirely possible that the Egyptians came up with this glass on their own.

I'll see if i can find a map.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 09:11 am
tektites are usually oblate spheres some have a tear drop shape, all are clear and colored glass. Lightning fusing , called Fulgurites , are rarely smooth surfaced. The lightning fuses as much of the sand and rock that it can but the overall shape is like a long sand encrusted worm tube. They have a fulgurite at the rocky Mtn Museum that is about 30 ft long and contains lots of branching structures like tree limbs.

Tektites are always found in fields that have roundish patterns like rays of buckshot. Thats how they map the strewn fields and estimate trheir trajectories and sizes. Quartz melts at a low temperature so when one of these bolides comes rocketing in, the silica in the bolide, or the silica in the earth just at the point of impact , melts and stays plastic longer than would a metal. SO it takes on these weird shapes and forms little droplets that are blown outward(Think about the meteor crater Park in W US, when the meteor hit, it actually blew the flat lying rock formations outward and bent the crater rim outward also.) They found very few tektites at this crater so it must not have been of the type that generates them.

The only tektite field I found even mildly useful was one that straddled the S american and African continents. The strewn field enabled geologists to accurately locate a Ti/Ta/Zr deposit .The Ti deposit was part of the original bedrock that was then hit by a bolide smack.Then, The tektite field was older than when the continents split so the relict strewn field still retained a "tektite circle" that was busted at the point where the continents split.The geologists knew that if they hit tektites, they were about at the end of the ore body.
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