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Drinking and Dieting: How Much Fluid is Necessary

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 15 Jul, 2006 06:52 pm
It seems bad to others, but, but it's part of my way of life.
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 15 Jul, 2006 07:09 pm
ossobuco wrote:
Read in the Mayo Clinic thing that one need more water with humidity due to the sweating. Somehow I think sweating a lot might call for some stuff with electrolytes..

I'm sure there is much more out there on all this, Noddy.. I hardly made a dent, just got some varied views.


I'm surprised to hear this from the Mayo Clinic. I had always though you sweat just as much in dry climates as other; it just evaporated instead of running off. In any case, there is such a thing as insensible sweat, which the body uses to maintain a healthy humidity for the skin. This accounts for the success of vapor barrier clothing in extreme cold, and the failure of polypropelyne, which does exactly as advertised. It wicks moisture away from the skin - at which point, of course, it evaporates. As expected, evaporation causes cooling.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Jul, 2006 07:19 pm
I've now read a whole bunch of articles, which are all sloshing together in my mind. What you say makes sense, Roger,
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jul, 2006 11:01 am
Edgar--

That was Coward (Noel), not criticism:

Quote:

MAD DOGS AND ENGLISHMEN
From the musical revue "The Third Little Show" (1924)
(Noel Coward)
Noe Coward


In Tropical climes there are certain times of day
When all the citizens retire to take their clothes off and perspire
It's one of those rules the greatest fools obey
Because the Sun is far too sultry and one must avoid its ultry-violet
rays

The natives grieve when the White Men leave their huts
Because they're obviously....definitely....Nuts!

Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
The Japanese don't care to, the Chinese wouldn't dare to
Hindus and Argentines sleep firmly from twelve till one
But Englishmen detest-a siesta

In the Philipines they have lovely screens to protect you from the
glare
In the Malay States there are hats like plates which the Britishers
won't wear
At twelve noon the natives swoon and no further work is done
But mad dogs and Englismen go out in the midday sun

It's such a surprise for the Eastern eyes to see
That though the English are effete, they're quite impervious to heat
When the White Man rides, every native hides in glee
Because the simple creatures hope he will impale his solar topi on a
tree

It seems such a shame when the English claim the Earth
That they give rise to such hilarity and mirth
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Ho=ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho
He-he-he-he-he-he-he
Hm-hm-hm-hm-hm

Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun
The toughest Burmese bandit can never understand it
In Rangoon the heat of noon is just what the natives shun
They put their Scotch or Rye down and lie down

In a jungle town where the Sun beats down to the rage of man and beast
The English garb of the English Sahib merely gets a bit more creased
In Bangkok at twelve o'clock they foam at the mouth and run
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun

Mad dogs and Englshmen go out in the midday sun
The smallest Malay rabbit deplores this foolish habit
In Hong Kong they strike a gong and fire off a noonday gun
To reprimand each inmate, who's in late

In the mangorve swamps where the python romps there is peace from
twelve till two
Even caribous lie around and snooze for there's nothing else to do
In Bengal to move at all is seldom if ever done
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday
Out in the midday sun




(Transcribed by Mel Priddle - October 2002)



Artist Song Name Composer Composition Instrument


http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/m/maddogsandenglishmen.shtml


Roger--

In low humidity, sweat vanishes quickly and is replenished quickly. The faster the evaporation, the greater the need for more cooling sweat to evaporate and the greater the need for extra fluid.

Also, in high humidity, you realize that you are miserable. In low humidity you have a false sense of dry dignity.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jul, 2006 11:17 am
I gathered the wrong impression from the Mayo Clinic article - I think. Still not positive if you sweat the same or not, dry or humid - is it relative to temperature only or related to air/humidity? - but my comment that they said you need more water in high humidity (than in lower humidity at same temp) was not warranted... might be true but can't tell from what they said, which was

"Environment. Hot or humid weather can make you sweat and requires additional intake of fluid. Heated indoor air also can cause your skin to lose moisture during wintertime. Further, altitudes greater than 2,500 meters (8,200 feet) may trigger increased urination and more rapid breathing, which use up more of your fluid reserves."
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jul, 2006 12:21 pm
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject:

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Edgar--

That was Coward (Noel), not criticism:

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Oh, I didn't feel criticised. I was reacting as much to the way people react in person as what you wrote.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jul, 2006 02:05 pm
Good.
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Miller
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 08:19 pm
Noddy24 wrote:
Osso--



Personal question: Do you sweat more or less than your co-workers.


The amount of sweat is a function of sex, hormonal levels, drugs etc. Individuals on vasodilators, for example will sweat more during times of elevated temperature than nonmedicated individuals.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jul, 2006 08:45 pm
Right, Miller, I get that there are reasons for variations between different people. But, say it's the same person within a short time span in two different places of different humidities. Will that person, relative to him or herself and all other things theoretically being equal in the body and the outside temperatures being equal, sweat more with higher humidity outside, or.... not. Roger's answer may cover this, will have to go back and look again.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:08 am
Miller--

Quote:

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Noddy24 wrote:
Osso--



Personal question: Do you sweat more or less than your co-workers.


The amount of sweat is a function of sex, hormonal levels, drugs etc. Individuals on vasodilators, for example will sweat more during times of elevated temperature than nonmedicated individuals.




That question was asked of Edgar, not Osso.

Quote my prose all you please, but do not alter it.
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