nimh wrote:Chai Tea wrote:As I alluded before, I WASN'T particularly impressed with the others either.
Each one at some point, would listen to the question from the panel, then immediatley segway into their own agenda.....Strayhorn with her "Texas First, Perry with his $2,000 per person property tax cut. (as opposed to Strayhorn prediction it's more like $56.00 per person. I think the truth lies somewhere in between) and Bell with his Dale Carnegie style of communication.
One point I will give to Bell was the non-response he gave to the panelist who asked, essentially "What do you have to say about those who say you have the pesonality of white rice?"
I say good for him for ignoring that barb and continuing on in his, albeit staid way, presenting his platform.
Ehm, sorry, I'm with Echi here. You approach her quite agressively because she hasnt been able to give any examples of things of
substance that Friedman had to offer. Your own point is that this is serious business, you go on about how this isnt American Idol, the candidates should have serious things to offer --and Kinky didnt do that at all. Implying that the others, unimpressive as they may have been, at least did. But you cant apparently give any example of things of substance that
the others said either.
As far as I can tell the only thing of substance that you have referred to re Strayhorn and Perry so far is their 'he said she said' on tax cuts that may or may not be of substance themselves. All your other remarks on Perry, Strayhorn and Bell are
also merely about style, just like Echi's about Kinky was. Bell's Dale Carnegie style of communication, Bell was staid, but reacted sensibly to being called staid. Perry, Bell and Strayhorn at least dressed like it was business, Perry and Bell wore ties. And so on and so forth. None of that comes down to points of any more substance than Echi saying that at least Kinky made the others look bad.
Way I see it, all either of you have said about the debate has been about style, personal impression, the way they had of expressing themselves - nothing, apart from the 'he said she said' about taxes, about one or the other candidate's actual policies, proposals, ideas. So I think your demand of Echi is a bit unfair here. You want her to prove that Kinky had something of substance to say, but you yourself havent shown anything that proves your opposing take, that the others had
more substance than Kinky, either.
Nimh....Again, I have ALREADY stated twice I did not think any other the others were particulary impressive....am I going to need to repeat myself yet again later?
As for acting "aggressively" toward Echi (who I thought was a man, sorry), I'm simply asking for an answer, which as not yet been provided. Impressions are extremely important in this matter. Friedman is someone who will fold under pressure.
Also, perhaps Echi should be allowed to speak for herself.
Substance? OK, Perry discussed his property tax bill which should save the average homeowner $2000 a year, this is debatable, but it is something to research and ask about, which I have done above. Also, the Texas Corridor, which Perry says is necessary for the infrastructure of Texas because of our tremdous growth.
Strayhorn? Seemed to concentrate more on educational issues...raising teacher salaries, and eliminating the TAS test.
Bell....from what I can recall without reviewing the show, he spoke mostely of education also. The fact that both Strayhorn and Bell both spoke out against the Texas Corridor is in itself of substance. As far as handling questions, they were able to give at least some substance as they were prepared for questioning, and were able to anticipate what was going to be asked. One must be prepared to run a state, but just respond on the fly to questions.
Did you see the debate?
I suppose what I find so annoying about this whole thing is that those who will vote for Friedman are just taking votes away from the candidate who is experienced and prepared to do the job.
Oh yeah BBB....saying he didn't use the internet in itself was bad enough....but calling it the work of satan?
I want our next governor to be a person who does not know how to send an email.