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More than 40% of our lakes are unsuitable . . .

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jul, 2006 07:28 pm
You should be ashamed at your lack of swimming skills.

Don't swallow so much of that.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 10:04 am
cjhsa wrote:
You should be ashamed at your lack of swimming skills.

Don't swallow so much of that.


Swimming has nothing to do with mercury's presence in the water. If you can not take this threat seriously, take your fingers off your keyboard and leave.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 10:07 am
Really? Yet you said because of mercury contamination you couldn't (or shouldn't) go swimming.

Please clarify.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 10:43 am
The FDA has warned women of child-bearing age and children to avoid certain types of fish and limit their consumption of some seafood - for example, no more than 6 oz. of albacore tuna a week. In recent years, the amount of mercury in seafood has risen to dangerously high levels. Children exposed to toxic doses of mercury in the womb or through the food they eat can have problems with attention span, language, visual-spatial skills, memory and coordination.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 11:31 am
What does that have to do with swimming?

I've swam in a lot of rivers, lakes, and streams. Never ever once did I see any tuna.

Do you know how to prepare salmon/swordfish/tuna to eliminate most of the contaminants? Or do you prefer tofuna?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 04:56 pm
The controls of monomethylmercury ADsorption in water is a function of PH. methylmercury adsorbs optimally at a pH of 5.5 to 6.5. At higher or lower pHs methmerc desorbs and is taken up by small critters

and bacteria. The sea is more basic(ph>7.5) thats why the repository of methylmercury in ocean water (dissolved) is higher than in lakes and streams (unless youre in an acid mine drainage area, but then aluminum is more of a toxic problem and there probably wont be many fish there )

I insist that your numbers for fresh water is way too exaggerated. I dont deny a methylmerc problem and bioaccumulation in seafood but I think youre just trying to change the subject away from your threads title. Much of the dissolved methylmercury in seawater is actually from natural subsea vents that spew all sorts of heavy metals. Most of this is taken up by bottom sediment but some is dissolved and that gets bioaccumulated

cj-how do you prepare a tuna steak to keep from getting mercury in your system? I know that you can take some chelating agent and then youll just piss it away.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 05:04 pm
I always remove the darker portions and fat, where toxins tend to accumulate. That's it.

I also take fish oil daily. It dropped my cholesterol quite a bit. Lots cheaper than buying, an especially catching, high quality fish.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 05:12 pm
I knew the "dark stuff" was a repository for organics like PCB's (They used to have a pcb/dioxin warning for people who lived on fish from the Hudson)

I did not know that the methylmercury was also deposited in thedark flesh. Thank you. We catch a couple tuna each year and we never eat the fatty parts anyway, (its pretty gross).
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 05:20 pm
Feel free to prove me wrong. I don't want to eat Hg either.

But swimming? Comon pom....
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 06:22 pm
I have always said that the most contaminated waters are in swimming pools. The chloramines in the ater are a known carcinogen. ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY SWIMMING POOLS ARE UNHEALTHY AND CONTAMINATED.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jul, 2006 06:29 pm
My eyes agree with you.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jul, 2006 08:34 am
farmerman -- I'm not trying to change my subject but expand it as I wrote above.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 02:52 pm
Thought some of you would find this interesting . . . or annoying! Laughing

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Internet freedom
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A thorough re-localization and greening of the economy, transferring funds from the current annual $500 billion military budget
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 05:39 pm
The EPA already gutted our manufacturing capabilities. We buy all our heavy armour plate from offshore.

Some eutopia you eco-freaks will have when you're governed by Al-Queda. Hope you like gardening in a burqa.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:16 pm
now youve gone over the line. I happen to endorse much of the above stuff that POM listed, (the only thing Im againsts is "green fuels" that involve ethanol, thats a joke of a concept.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:29 pm
So you lie in .05% of the population who even knows what POM is talking about.

Nothing against that, but to say that I've crossed the line by pointing out what has happened to our country's infrastructure since the creation of the EPA (by a R no less), is pretty far out there in its own right.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:41 pm
you want to live in an industrial garbage pit that was this country's environment in the early 20th century?

Sorry, you can heap all kinds of bumper stickers on us, but the fact remains, we no longer have streams that occasionally "catch fire". We even have salmon back in the St Croix River and shad have returned to the Susquehanna.

What is it that you want made that needs labor costs of 25 bucks an hour that we cannot buy cheaper from some other country and let themn phuck up their environments like good little Republicans wish.

Quite an enigma, all the countries who phuck up their environments like the GOP likes, are all those whose govts the GOP doesnt like.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 07:44 pm
I'd much rather have the heavy industry on our shores, on our side.

We were "sold down the river" in that respect. It's kinda personal.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 3 Aug, 2006 08:10 pm
Ok Ill back off and get in my cage.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2006 08:56 am
cjhsa wrote:
The EPA already gutted our manufacturing capabilities. We buy all our heavy armour plate from offshore.



This would be hysterical if it weren't so pathetic. This man has real emotional problems and is probably a bully in real life.
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