Jesus Could Have Walked on Ice, Scientist Says

I have a question. If so many are so convinced that there is no God or no Jesus Christ why do they try so hard to prove that? The phrase "I think they doth protest too much" comes to mind.

If you don't believe, fine, don't believe. But what is your motive for trying to get believers to not believe, assuming that is what some are doing.

Momma Angel wrote:

There is one thing I really do not understand about those that do not believe. If, as they say they don't believe, then why in the world do they work so doggone hard to try to prove wrong those of us that do believe?

Surely, you (and others) are not doing it for the believers' welfare.

It is not a matter of proving wrong, it is a matter of education. I suspect that for everyone that posts here there are at least ten lurkers reading the posts, so it is not just you that I am trying to reach. Speaking only for myself, I feel that there is an unhealthy fundamentalist revivalism in this country that is working it's way into our government. www.4religious-right.info

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I have a question. If so many are so convinced that there is no God or no Jesus Christ why do they try so hard to prove that? The phrase "I think they doth protest too much" comes to mind.

If you don't believe, fine, don't believe. But what is your motive for trying to get believers to not believe, assuming that is what some are doing.

I don't get it.

Christians don't have to stay in thier homes, but they need to stay out of mine. Metaphorically speaking.

Christians condesend upon non-Christians and then call it compassion.

To be fair, it's not just Christians.

No one is trying to force their faith upon anyone, some people are just trying to show people the right path.

Can't have one without the other . . .

Setanta wrote:

Can't have one without the other . . .

exactly. you can't have light without darkness or heat without cold otherwise there is really nothing to distinguish.

crimsontriad wrote:

Setanta wrote:

Can't have one without the other . . .

exactly. you can't have light without darkness or heat without cold otherwise there is really nothing to distinguish.

That would mean Satan would have to be as powerful as God, which would make him in effect a god himself. You can't have Satan less powerful as God, otherwise he wouldn't be a real opposite, would he?

Setanta wrote:

Can't have one without the other . . .

exactly. you can't have light without darkness or heat without cold otherwise there is really nothing to distinguish.

crimsontriad wrote:

Setanta wrote:

Can't have one without the other . . .

exactly. you can't have light without darkness or heat without cold otherwise there is really nothing to distinguish.

False analogies: heat is a relative statement about the activity of molecules in a gas, liquid or solid--cold is simply a statement about the relative absence of heat; light is a relative statement about the degree of radiation present which human eyes are able to detect--darkness is simply a statement about the relative absence of light.

As usual, theism depends upon simplistic and false definitions, and a shallow appeal to what sounds "cool" as opposed to a rigorous examination of first causes and evidence.

False again--measurement is an arbitrary statement about the relative amount of the "measurable" quantity or quality present.

None of which changes the fact that your heat/cold and light/dark analogy doesn't work.